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Old 03-21-2011, 04:36 PM
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The bazaar was great in my opinion. I could put stuff up for sale and go to bed. I didn't have to haggle over pricing, I could find cheap items and could sell stuff that I can't be bothered to sell in EC. I have very little play time and I don't want to spend that time siting in EC. I just wind up with bags of stuff in my bank which I either sell or give away. Bazaar didn't kill the game. The thing which killed the game was the expansion which housed the Bazaar zone.. PoP. The PoK books shrunk the world down. That plus adding zone with insane XP (Paludal Caverns on Luclin comes to mind) really made a ghost town of the classic starting zones.. Luclin was the start of the decline with the Nexus. It shrunk the world down too much.
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:32 PM
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As someone else has said, the bazaar took the human element out of the equation. I have no problem with the fact that it made things easier. But you couldn't haggle over prices because everyone was AFK. You couldn't trade items because they were AFK. You couldn't keep a higher price on an item hoping the other person with the item would go to bed. You were forced to put the rock bottom price down, and then wait 5 mins to see you get undercut and your item doesn't sell.

People got very rich by playing with how it worked. They could drive down prices by posting it at a low price, then buy up the now greatly discounted items as others reacted to you. Then selling them at a monopoly price. Or by constantly searching to catch errors (like someone forgot a 0, so a 1k item is listed at 100pp) and taking advantage of it.
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:37 PM
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I kind of hated Luclin personally, and left shortly after PoP was released. And I was one of those 2 boxers who had a character online in the Bazaar and one to play on. It wasn't just the Bazaar.. it was shoddy lore, silly changes and then the later effect the Bazaar had on the economy.

Luclin began the trend of instant self-ports, which would be carried farther in PoP and was really annoying to the 2 porting classes.

The Shissar. A mighty, enslaving, god killing race long thought dead is found alive on a far away moon. Not conquering the race that was there but rather hiding in a locked atmosphere-free zone out of pure fear. Oh right.

The Bazaar itself:

First, what made EQ so great then is the same thing that makes P99 great right now: personal contact with players. Beyond just grouping. You could avoid groups by soloing, but if you wanted to buy/sell anything decent, you had to make contact with people. Yes there are some jerks, but mostly, good people. It encouraged contact, like any good MMO should. The Bazaar began a rift in the personable economy that gave rise to such impersonal things as the modern WoW Auction House. An MMO in which you need no personal contact? Why even call it an MMO?

Second. In any game that releases expansions there is a degree of "mudflation". This is where old items drop drastically in value. However because the Bazaar changed the entire way the player driven economy worked, it caused an unbelievable amount of mudflation. In fact it was so drastic that the term became popularized because of the Luclin expac release..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation

And this is why so many people are against, and hate it. Myself included [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:48 PM
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bazaar is good for the economy and great for people who want to buy and sell things without sinking time into it

other than that, luclin is garbage... especially aa points, vah shirs, beastlords and just about every zone. one exception was paludal caverns, it was the #1 place to pk people on my twink delvl 24 sk on rallos zek, especially killing many other peoples twinks for A++ gear
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:10 PM
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Luclin was "ok"

I liked:
Nexus Ports
Bazaar AFK selling and browsing.
AA points that where not super OP
Horses?

I Hated
New Graphics
CAT People
The Moon
Cats from the moon
Snakes
Bane weapon grinds
CAVES!!
Monks got nerfed -(

I dont think that Nexus ruined the scope and scale of the world, i do think that it was the slippery slope that lead to POK books.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:01 PM
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only good part about AA was 2boxing my cleric in ascending dawn in sebilis, and boxing my manaburn wizard in lucid vision.... running around inspecting people to find the best item to get, then running into seb and manaburning them for a 1shot kill, and instagating back to the bazaar for safety.

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Old 03-21-2011, 07:12 PM
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iam all for bazaar already now!

place a porter at shady in EC tunnel who brings u directly to bazaar and disable all zonelines in there, imo.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:48 PM
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iam all for bazaar already now!

place a porter at shady in EC tunnel who brings u directly to bazaar and disable all zonelines in there, imo.
i like this idea A LOT, but it will ruin too many people's immersion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:54 PM
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the bazaar killed player merchanting, period.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:56 PM
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I Hated
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Luclin models are to EQ what Male Draenei are to WOW
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