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Old 05-16-2018, 03:18 AM
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Couple of points you need to know, EC re-sellers don't want you to know this.

(1) Posting on forum to sell will net you the lowest profit margin. It's good if you want to get rid of your items fast, but expect people to lowball you unless the item is super rare and high in demand.

(2) People in EC rarely buy at market price. It is usually those who doesn't want to spend time in EC waiting, or naive to think wiki price is firm. As a seller, these are the best customers you can deal with.

(3) You should notice in EC WTBs is significantly less than WTSs. You should know why that is happening and take advantage of it.

(4) Pay attention to the WTBs. I made tons of plat from WTBs, even if my char still needs the item. Just buy back the item at a lower price from another seller. Rethink point #3.

(5) Make an effort to monitor EC for at least 2 weeks (14 days). You will get an idea on what the true transaction prices are.

(6) There are many dumb EC resellers, remember their names and avoid them. Sell them items but never buy from them.

(7) Wiki price is playing listing price, not transaction price. Have you bought a car or house before? You don't pay MSRP or the house listing price. If you do then I can't help your sorry ass.
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:54 AM
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:03 AM
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Couple of points you need to know, EC re-sellers don't want you to know this.

(1) Posting on forum to sell will net you the lowest profit margin. It's good if you want to get rid of your items fast, but expect people to lowball you unless the item is super rare and high in demand.

(2) People in EC rarely buy at market price. It is usually those who doesn't want to spend time in EC waiting, or naive to think wiki price is firm. As a seller, these are the best customers you can deal with.

(3) You should notice in EC WTBs is significantly less than WTSs. You should know why that is happening and take advantage of it.

(4) Pay attention to the WTBs. I made tons of plat from WTBs, even if my char still needs the item. Just buy back the item at a lower price from another seller. Rethink point #3.

(5) Make an effort to monitor EC for at least 2 weeks (14 days). You will get an idea on what the true transaction prices are.

(6) There are many dumb EC resellers, remember their names and avoid them. Sell them items but never buy from them.

(7) Wiki price is playing listing price, not transaction price. Have you bought a car or house before? You don't pay MSRP or the house listing price. If you do then I can't help your sorry ass.
1. I find this to be incorrect. While you may get low-balled, I find that it happens far less on the forums than it does in the tunnel. Plus, who cares? Just ignore the terrible offers and keep bumping until you get a hit. It's best to set a price for the items you post as well, otherwise you will get random offers. People generally don't put a price on things because they're hoping for more plat than it's worth or they have a specific range they're willing to let it go for and instead of putting the minimum, they leave it open.

2. While this is more true now than it used to be, I still find people willing to pay the price posted, as long as you aren't trying to gouge them. Figure out the average of an item between the tunnel, wiki, ahungry and forum posts and either aim for the minimum or slightly below average. No matter what you price an item at, you still have people offering you a 10th of what you're asking, just ignore them.

3. This statement is correct, but contradicts point #4.

4. The only time you should sell an item you're using is if someone is trying to buy for a ridiculous amount over what it's worth. However, this doesn't make sense in regard to your third point, because if people are wanting to buy an item for much less than market average, then you aren't going to be making money off of it, you'll be losing money. Let me know if I'm reading this wrong.

5. While you can get a good idea of prices after a couple of weeks by looking at the tunnel, it's best to look at everything over a broader time frame using all sources listed earlier (tunnel, wiki, ahungry, forums). If you're specifically looking at the tunnel or recent ahungry postings (which would be the same thing), you could be looking at sellers trying to inflate an item's worth, similar to what's happening with the pre-nerf CoS. This is also true with the wiki, except they're usually outdated prices.

6. Correct, resellers are there to make a profit. If you're trying to sell items fast, they'll probably be the best bet if you've already exhausted normal selling means. It will be obvious who the resellers are though, since they usually sell at the higher end of the spectrum or insane prices that the item hasn't gone for since it was first released.

7. Use the wiki as a starting point. Don't assume that's the current pricing, but in some rare cases it may be the only pricing you have to go off of. It at least gives you an idea if your item is worth 40p or 40k.

Outside of that, a lot of the advice here is spot on. If you're selling items that aren't going quick in the tunnel, make a forum post for them and bump the post every day or two. Items that are harder to sell are vendor trash items or class specific items. Try camping spots that have a chance of dropping items worth around 1k or more and try to get an idea of how heavy the demand is for a specific item. Camps like frenzied in Velks drops 2 great items, a cheap all/all haste glove and an awesome melee wrist (non-lore), both of which sell pretty well, even though the camp usually has someone sitting at it at all times.

tl;dr - Don't buy plat from Kluwen
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:17 AM
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:21 AM
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Save low value items for when you are trying to sell a bigger ticket items. Don't stick around EC trying to just sell low value stuff.

For example if you have an item worth 100p, and you spend an hour trying to sell it, you just lost several hundred plat that you would have gained by spending that time in Seb grouping or somewhere else soloing.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:41 AM
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Oh, I thought HS, or at least the West and South wings (with Rapier of Oriin, Sash of the Dragonborn, etc.) were pretty decent. I've never actually done HS for loot myself though, I just heard good things.
The “Good” drops in West are rare or ultra-rare drops off the boss in the back room. They aren’t exactly easy to farm solo (though far from impossible). The big ticket drops in South are easier to farm because there is a specific spot most of the farmers work in that only exposes you to 4-5 mobs every respawn, with a safe spot nearby. There is also a bigger variety of drops (Sash, Bloodpoint, and Fingerbone Hoop being the big 3 that sell for good plat out of South, as I recall).
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:48 AM
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Old 05-16-2018, 03:00 PM
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No secret other than time. You can max your time by making a mule that is in EC, posting to the forum EC tunnel, etc...but it will still take more time.

The more favorable a price you offer to the buyer the less time it will take you.

The problem you're having is more a server issue with mid level or beginning gear. The amount of time it takes to sell mid lvl gear at a favorable price to the seller is usually far higher than the time (opportunity cost) you give up by sitting in EC when you can be out lvl'ing and earning...the result is that it is a buyer's market on mid level equipment.

You benefit from this same "problem" when you buy your cheap mid lvl gear...so it isn't entirely unfair to the new player either. My suggestion would be to simply accept that the you are going to routinely sell gear at less than what you think is the fair market price simply because of the time variable. It isn't the end of the world.

When you start to get into rare items or higher price items then you'll be able to play around more in the tunnel as a seller.

If you are genuinely trying to make pp as a new player I would suggest selecting your farm camps to generate rare low lvl items that are still relatively seller markets: things like goblin gazhughi ring were my bread and butter during kunark. Rare item, low lvl to farm it, hella rare = folks actually pay a premium for the item (ring is just an example ofc.) If you can track consider doing some of the better cycle track items (quillmane, iksar mask, fm drops, etc.)...you can still make money farming gear on p99 but you kind of have to deliberately pick the items you invest farm time in at low lvls.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:29 AM
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Save low value items for when you are trying to sell a bigger ticket items. Don't stick around EC trying to just sell low value stuff.

For example if you have an item worth 100p, and you spend an hour trying to sell it, you just lost several hundred plat that you would have gained by spending that time in Seb grouping or somewhere else soloing.
This ^^

Nothing is worse than spending time in EC selling off the cheap items. I stopped logging in my mule once all the 1k+ items are gone, despite having tons of 500p or below items in inventory.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:10 PM
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I disagree with everyone saying “no one” wants low end gear. I have a level 33 shaman and a lv 24 enchanter. I was excited everytime I hit the tunnel and found players actually selling things for less than 500p, because I could afford them. I would check in the tunnel once a week or so and slowly geared up both toons with worthwile, yet inexpensive gear! One major problem with EQ, or any game, is everyone wants to fast track to the best gear and most powerful items, completely forgetting and unerappreciating the low and mid gear along the way. Maybe +2 int doesn’t mean much to the neckbeards, but for 10p I was overjoyed to have SOMETHING on my ring slot that made me better. I don’t care if it amounts to hardly any mp, it made me feel better to slowly fill spots with “unique” gear. I totally support the suggestion to use a gating class to make going back and forth easier, and just check in occasionally. Please keep selling your cheaper wares! Someone will be super pumped to take it off your hands. There are new players every day, and plenty of noobs who wander over from Freeport to hunt dervs and willowisps. You could also just do what all the “cheaters” (imho) do and make another toon just to “mule” or hold all your stuff and park in EC, so you can check in and quit whenever you want. Best of luck to you!
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