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Old 03-20-2011, 02:27 AM
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As a veteran of EQ PvP for years, as well as many other PvP games. I sure hope you don't intend to make a classic era PvP server without dedicating tons of time and resources towards PvP balance.

No offense, but classic EQ PvP would be broken as all hell. It wasn't until the later expansions that a sudo-class balance came into effect. What someone earlier said "PvP... casters rejoice!" is true. Classic PvP would be nothing but mages, necros, and druids running up, dotting (or pet attack) and running away.

I love EQ. I love PvP. Please don't give us a broken joke of a server.
Mages do well early. Comparitively, about this same time in P99's timeline, your mage would be easy pickin's already. I guess you could just reroll, but I hear thats alot of exping.

I hope any perceived imabalance wouldn't delay the release of this server beyond March.
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:48 AM
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Mages do well early. Comparitively, about this same time in P99's timeline, your mage would be easy pickin's already. I guess you could just reroll, but I hear thats alot of exping.

I hope any perceived imabalance wouldn't delay the release of this server beyond March.
I was just using mages as an example. Though typically the majority of PvP players will play a solo class to PvE level.

Of course all of this is subject to the server rules: level range, deity based, or free for all.

For 'perceived' imbalance, Classic EQ is notorious for imbalance between classes (pretty much everyone agrees that class balance gradually gets better in Kunark and Velious). We have tons of posts talking about how all the solo classes (mages, necros) seem to be a hands-down better alternative to rolling something like a ranger.

However, balance right now is geared towards PvE. Classic EQ has ZERO balance gone into it towards PvP. Explain to me how, on equal footing, a warrior is supposed to take down a SK.

At least TZ/VZ and other PvP servers tried on EQEmu have been based on PEQ coding, which plays on PoP era inter-class balance.

Like a lot of other PvP servers on EQEmu it'll probably be fun for the first month or so, but after that without significant efforts from the devs there will be a lot of pissed off people.
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:55 AM
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I hope any perceived imabalance wouldn't delay the release of this server beyond March.
He did not even say he was going to do it let lol. March ....
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Old 03-20-2011, 01:15 PM
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Explain to me how, on equal footing, a warrior is supposed to take down a SK.

Like a lot of other PvP servers on EQEmu it'll probably be fun for the first month or so, but after that without significant efforts from the devs there will be a lot of pissed off people.
If said war and sk have high end resist gear and 2h weapons, its mostly a jousting competition. Assuming "equal footing" means gear and not skill, you as a veteran pkr war, you should probably kill any sk who is mediocre at pvp.

Anyone who is pissed off because they chose a class they aren't having fun at in pvp has only themselves to be pissed at.

I understand your points, and they aren't totally meritless. It just seems like you are using a narrow view point to make your claims. If I was afraid of losing a 1 vs. 1, I would find a friend and make it 2 vs. 1. If you think eqpvp is a series of 1 vs. 1's in a circle marked with chalk, with handshakes before and back slaps afterward and everything is fair, you are confused. Being a veteran pvp'r you already know that. I guess I'm confused as to why you want to make your points from such a narrow viewpoint.

A ranger vs a mage in a dungeon near a zoneline could easily go to the ranger on day 1. And it will only get worse for the mage every day after that. There are so many ways to even things up, so many strats. I know you already know this, I am just making sure anyone else who doesn't know as much as you will not get confused.

Anyone who makes a mage either likes mages or is sacrificing their future for the present, or they plan to reroll later. Releasing an emu server obviously isn't going to be perfect. I wouldn't let that keep me from releasing one, nor would i let that keep me from picking the class I wanted to play in pvp once it is released. I played a pvp enchanter on live for goodness sake.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:09 PM
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what if we wiped all your pokemon savegames before you can play again?
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:28 PM
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what if we wiped all your pokemon savegames before you can play again?
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:10 PM
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A fresh start sounds no better then multiboxing...
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:18 PM
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A p1999 full loot PVP would be awesome.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:42 PM
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P99 being related to slavery....


I foresee this in RnF soon.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:43 PM
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P99 being related to slavery....


I foresee this in RnF soon.
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