Raid Rotation

[loramin]

Originally Posted by HalasHermit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never said it was the majority or made any reference to numbers or breakdowns. My main point was that those people do exist and this is the only server that offers that play style.

You completely ignored the second half of what Ravager wrote (even though you agree that "those people" are the minority):

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why enable the tiny fraction of raiders who want to do that to have so much control over so much content?

Simply because "this is the only server that does *any particular thing*" doesn't mean any particular thing is worth doing. Perhaps there's a reason no other server has (entirely unclassic BTW) batphones?

[Shinko]

no cuz i never want to do a meeting with TMO BDA AND FE again
fuck that shit

[dromar]

I guess we need to add another number with the text "Begging for raid rotations"

[trite]

Yeah, minimal effort is begging for pixels on the forums. If you want to get into a player agreement with other guilds, you need to show up and compete.

But who knows, the GM's have created pseudo rotations on this server by deciding to ban A/A for whatever reasons at the same time. Or banning guilds for arbitrarily long durations (3 and 4 weeks at a time).

[dennardscott86]

So far the only thing ive seen done with minimum Effort is casual guilds scraping thier barrels trying to get members to come to ToV because a dragon has been up or more than 10 min. A hour later of convincing that they MAY have a chance at actually killing it, they managed to get 30-40 people from different guilds to show up, get buffed ONLY to watch A/A mobilize in less than 3, jump OVER the Casuals and Tokyo Drift that Dragon into oblivion RoFL further killing the casuals spirits of raiding. Then when asked "why you do that?" we get" You are too slow, either join us or continue watching.."


I vote Raid rotation all day.

[trite]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My server, Bristlebane, had them in PoP but not in the classic era. I'm also pretty sure that (in the many other threads like this that have been created over the years) others have mentioned having them even earlier on their servers ... but I'm too lazy to look it up.

Originally Posted by dennardscott86 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So far the only thing ive seen done with minimum Effort is casual guilds scraping thier barrels trying to get members to come to ToV because a dragon has been up or more than 10 min. A hour later of convincing that they MAY have a chance at actually killing it, they managed to get 30-40 people from different guilds to show up, get buffed ONLY to watch A/A mobilize in less than 3, jump OVER the Casuals and Tokyo Drift that Dragon into oblivion RoFL further killing the casuals spirits of raiding. Then when asked "why you do that?" we get" You are too slow, either join us or continue watching.."


I vote Raid rotation all day.

I don't know what you want, there are bi-monthly earthquakes...if you can't marshal a force to kill one or more of the dozens of targets on an hour or two's notice twice a month, you aren't a raid guild.

[Joeannamelissa]

Or eliminate the main thing that gives no lifers a big advantage over casuals, 16 hour windows. That window is single handedly preventing actual competition that the hardcore players always seem to cry about. If windows were 4-8 hours I guarantee you'd see a hell of a lot more people willing to "compete". Until then your standard p99 player will continue to play the game for fun and ignore the raid scene while the neckbeards spend their playtime standing in a zone doing absolutely nothing 90% of the time.

In before "not classic"...16 hour windows aren't either

[trite]

Originally Posted by Joeannamelissa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or eliminate the main thing that gives no lifers a big advantage over casuals, 16 hour windows. That window is single handedly preventing actual competition that the hardcore players always seem to cry about. If windows were 4-8 hours I guarantee you'd see a hell of a lot more people willing to "compete". Until then your standard p99 player will continue to play the game for fun and ignore the raid scene while the neckbeards spend their playtime standing in a zone doing absolutely nothing 90% of the time.

In before "not classic"...16 hour windows aren't either

I'd say the majority of the raid guild players only play a couple hours a week. They are just better organized than the "casuals".

If you want to turn every raid encounter into the scout quest then by all means take away variance. The server didn't used to have variance and they added it because life was terrible.

[mattydef]

Originally Posted by trite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say the majority of the raid guild players only play a couple hours a week.

Majority of raid guild players...couple hours a week...this guy definitely isn't an idiot, he definitely knows what he's talking about.

[trite]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Majority of raid guild players...couple hours a week...this guy definitely isn't an idiot, he definitely knows what he's talking about.

Yeah I looked at your magelo profiles, where vindi gear is your best gear lol. I know what I'm talking about. Raid guilds have a core of neckbeards, these people do the majority the tracking and other bs and they are the only ones full BiS or close to it (oftentimes they burn out). Then there is everyone else. Everyone else is ready to log in only when they get a text message saying there is stuff to kill. Otherwise they are off doing other stuff.

There are just as many neckbeards in casual guilds, they're just doing less productive stuff