What's the fastest and laziest class to level, like naked, without help.

[Irulan]

I was in a group with 3 wiz, and enchanter, bard, cleric (me). Several years ago. Seemed to work out nice vs lizard clerics in CThule.

Is it optimal? Nope. Was it sufficient to basically clear that small temple to the left of the zone in, yeah.

At some point a well put together group just kills all the spawns it safely can, and no it may not be the best exp in game, but it's nice. Wizards are cool in the right settings / groups.

Are they a lazy class, yep.

That being said I think necroo is way more versatile. I've got mine up to lvl 12 now, just hanging around the bushes in unrest killing a few beetles here and there with a blue pet, exp is decent, and I just overdot because I tend to afk longer than I med.

My only time I grouped I saved the cleric with dark empathy while the ench got cc down and my pet almost killed us all. None of my spells would land rly because I was too low.

Was a fun 30 minutes or so, and back to the hedge.

I think resists hurt wiz a little bit less in a group than other classes because their nukes are fast casting and efficient.

[Shinko]

For solo? Druid would be the best

Cuz fuck running gg ports

[Irulan]

Not sure if I would group with myself as a necro, I tried soloing an even con centaur charger and it wiped the floor with me and my lvl 29 pet. Had to FD at 10%

... casted darkness... resist, pet, fear, darkness, pet, boil blood, fear, reist 3x, FD.

Am I doing necro wrong?

Going to stick with it, I probably suck because I don't have gear and am using too high a level darkness for being in an outdoor zone with very little adds.

[Haghar]

You shouldn't be hunting even cons most of the time. Unless you have something like Tash/Malo you can expect an inordinate amount of resists - this has nothing to do with your skill level as a Necro, only your level.

In general, your goal should be to hunt the lowest dark blues you can find as they have the maximum experience per effort, and lowest risk of death.

[Nagoya]

That Wizard vs Druid comparions is unfair I think .... I still stand by my first answer in this topic that Wizard is a better answer to OP's question because of lazyness.

My wizard is 35 and druid 54, but let me give you an exemple at lvl 29 because they both get a DD upgrade at this cycle so this seems fair.

So let's say you're camping gnoll spire in SK (a very lazy camp with "fast xp" for a teleporter like Druids/Wizards because of the Scroll quest in Qeynos right? so it fits the bill)

Here is how I solo this camp with my Wizard:

3.60CT Inferno Shock = 237dmg
<get into tanking mode yay>
<throw in some Staff of Temp Flux debuff for less resists>
Global Cooldown Refresher (GCDR) + 3.60CT Inferno Shock = 237dmg
GCDR + 3.60CT Inferno Shock = 237dmg
Now the gnoll is running away and I finish him off with Solist's Icy Wand.
Total damage = 711 dmg
Total mana used = 405 mp
Total time Tanking = 7.20 seconds
Total time of the fight = about 20 seconds (Solist wand sucks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

Then sit on your ass and med and wait for next pop.

Now you try to do the same thing with the Druid

3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
<get into tanking mode yay>
GCDR + 3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
GCDR + 3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
GCDR + 3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
total damage at this point = 684 dmg
let's say your DS made some dmg and you kinda landed one or two hits between casts so that it's enough for the mob to flee... then you have to finish it off, maybe meleeing? so you snare? another smaller DD? a DoT?
Total mana used = at least 440 mp, without counting Snare and all the buffs you have on yourself and the slightly higher chance of resists and higher chance to fizzle or get interrupted cause more casts.
Total time Tanking = at least 10.50 seconds
Total time of the fight = at least 20 seconds like the wizard, most probably 30+ sec.
So this is probably a dumb way to solo on a druid, and you start using DoTs and Roots etc. fights last for more than one minute and you have to constantly refresh buffs, swap spells, switch between melee and medding, etc.

at some point you can probably sit on your ass and med and wait for next pop like a wiz.

But in the end, there is no question that the wizard is much easier and lazier than the druid (you use only one spell! lol). and probably faster too (even though here you might wanna count the bigger picture with sow to run to the quest giver and back to camp etc.? my wizard has Jboots so not a big deal either hehe).

OP's question was "Lazyest and fastest class to level up" and for that I think Wizard is much better than a Druid. That has absolutely nothing to do with the Wizard being a better overall class than the Druid. But it's just so single-minded into having the best DDs in the game that this allows thing that "slightly worse DD" like Magicians or Druids will make suddenly impossible. You can just burn down one MOB's HP faster and better than any other class. And if that's not lazy then what is xD

[Irulan]

Originally Posted by Nagoya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Wizard vs Druid comparions is unfair I think .... I still stand by my first answer in this topic that Wizard is a better answer to OP's question because of lazyness.

My wizard is 35 and druid 54, but let me give you an exemple at lvl 29 because they both get a DD upgrade at this cycle so this seems fair.

So let's say you're camping gnoll spire in SK (a very lazy camp with "fast xp" for a teleporter like Druids/Wizards because of the Scroll quest in Qeynos right? so it fits the bill)

Here is how I solo this camp with my Wizard:

3.60CT Inferno Shock = 237dmg
<get into tanking mode yay>
<throw in some Staff of Temp Flux debuff for less resists>
Global Cooldown Refresher (GCDR) + 3.60CT Inferno Shock = 237dmg
GCDR + 3.60CT Inferno Shock = 237dmg
Now the gnoll is running away and I finish him off with Solist's Icy Wand.
Total damage = 711 dmg
Total mana used = 405 mp
Total time Tanking = 7.20 seconds
Total time of the fight = about 20 seconds (Solist wand sucks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

Then sit on your ass and med and wait for next pop.

Now you try to do the same thing with the Druid

3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
<get into tanking mode yay>
GCDR + 3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
GCDR + 3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
GCDR + 3.50CT Combust = 171 dmg
total damage at this point = 684 dmg
let's say your DS made some dmg and you kinda landed one or two hits between casts so that it's enough for the mob to flee... then you have to finish it off, maybe meleeing? so you snare? another smaller DD? a DoT?
Total mana used = at least 440 mp, without counting Snare and all the buffs you have on yourself and the slightly higher chance of resists and higher chance to fizzle or get interrupted cause more casts.
Total time Tanking = at least 10.50 seconds
Total time of the fight = at least 20 seconds like the wizard, most probably 30+ sec.
So this is probably a dumb way to solo on a druid, and you start using DoTs and Roots etc. fights last for more than one minute and you have to constantly refresh buffs, swap spells, switch between melee and medding, etc.

at some point you can probably sit on your ass and med and wait for next pop like a wiz.

But in the end, there is no question that the wizard is much easier and lazier than the druid (you use only one spell! lol). and probably faster too (even though here you might wanna count the bigger picture with sow to run to the quest giver and back to camp etc.? my wizard has Jboots so not a big deal either hehe).

OP's question was "Lazyest and fastest class to level up" and for that I think Wizard is much better than a Druid. That has absolutely nothing to do with the Wizard being a better overall class than the Druid. But it's just so single-minded into having the best DDs in the game that this allows thing that "slightly worse DD" like Magicians or Druids will make suddenly impossible. You can just burn down one MOB's HP faster and better than any other class. And if that's not lazy then what is xD

I actually agree with all this, I think i have a 39 wiz account somewhere with jboots even... this is like the truth. It's great to just be a DE wiz with hide and walk away and hope no one kills u and finds your bind.

I found an OK spot on my necro to kill with at 29, but yeah, it's involved, end up taking 2-3 minutes to kill a mob, and since medding while kiting, IDK... I end fights at 40% mana naked, and I just want to sit and kill the other one, yeah, I could pretend I'm a wizard, get up and do stuff, and come back, and yeah I do this, but wizards are the best at this.

I think mobs that really fustrated me on my wiz though, were some of the nastier casty mobs that even if I burned down fast would leave me low hp, and not ready for a fight 10 minutes later.

I'm trying not to reroll, because like, really the end game is to be like lvl 55 and go farm lewt for a cleric alt or something and just help newbz level one day in MM when I'm bored and harras the veteran pvpers with my terrible non-l33t lack of skillz. For this necro+pet is just handy.

And ya, druids are the best plers and good for buffing lowbies for pvp, but i have a soft spot for the cleric class IDK..... Rez and able to calm/lull low lvl mobs + healing on any other class makes me feel ill.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually agree with all this, I think i have a 39 wiz account somewhere with jboots even... this is like the truth. It's great to just be a DE wiz with hide and walk away and hope no one kills u and finds your bind.

I found an OK spot on my necro to kill with at 29, but yeah, it's involved, end up taking 2-3 minutes to kill a mob, and since medding while kiting, IDK... I end fights at 40% mana naked, and I just want to sit and kill the other one, yeah, I could pretend I'm a wizard, get up and do stuff, and come back, and yeah I do this, but wizards are the best at this.

I think mobs that really fustrated me on my wiz though, were some of the nastier casty mobs that even if I burned down fast would leave me low hp, and not ready for a fight 10 minutes later.

I'm trying not to reroll, because like, really the end game is to be like lvl 55 and go farm lewt for a cleric alt or something and just help newbz level one day in MM when I'm bored and harras the veteran pvpers with my terrible non-l33t lack of skillz. For this necro+pet is just handy.

And ya, druids are the best plers and good for buffing lowbies for pvp, but i have a soft spot for the cleric class IDK..... Rez and able to calm/lull low lvl mobs + healing on any other class makes me feel ill.

I did the facetank/nukespam method on my wizard until the 40s. In terms of time spent actively playing it is very efficient.

You can carry some +hp gear to let you bandage to a higher absolute HP armount, then when you swap back in your AC/mana gear you'll be significantly above 50%. Also, max hp is low, so i found after bandaging/medding your hp would be pretty close to full. Can always use a few runes if really needed.

Once gnoll scrolls wear thin, do oasis or OOt spectres* for decent plat and the chance of Ancient Cyclops snipes. After that do wyverns and drakes in Cobalt Scar for gems.


*don't facetank nukespam spectres, their stun and life tap are not friendly.

[Amyas]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

?

For like a returning player who already knows the game, but is really lazy with the most limited playtime?

Necro or druid

[Shinko]

Fastest and laziest ain’t a necro

[Haghar]

Concur with Shinko. Necro is fairly high-involvement compared to classes like wizard/mage.