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Old 02-27-2018, 11:12 AM
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I go by my own ZEM which is most amount of mobs killed as efficiently/quickly as possible.

If the zone had a high exp mod then that's just icing on the cake. Also only duo.
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:24 PM
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I go by my own ZEM which is most amount of mobs killed as efficiently/quickly as possible.

If the zone had a high exp mod then that's just icing on the cake. Also only duo.
This all the way is the key to grinding out the levels. Except don't hard limit yourself to only duo - time spent not killing waiting for a partner isn't getting you exp, and some partners can't carry their weight depending on class combination

Alot of people want to focus on ZEM but fail to realize there is other factors to consider

1) what is the respawn and how many mobs are available?

High ZEM don't mean anything if there is just a few mobs to kill and it's a 30min respawn. Places with high density and short respawn can net more exp for high kill rate charm classes or any duos that work efficient

2) How popular is the area?

Again if the place is crowded with people constantly camped or tripping over each other ZEM Don't matter, could get more exp somewhere that has more camps or spawns without fighting other players for spawns

3) What is it worth?

Something not all players need to consider exping if your only goal is exp. But it might be worth considering, perhaps take a camp or zone with a bit less exp if it has some named or drops that can make you plat while you level.

4) Safety and Accessibility.

Last to think about but can definitely be important. How hard is it to get to the area? Is it 1 zone away from a port or 5. Is it keyed? How bad is a CR? How hard would it be to get a cleric to come rez you if you die? Are you ok with eating a death or paying a cleric for their time?

This can definitely affect exp. If you screw up alot or are getting in over your head and dieing alot then even the best ZEM won't save you
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:21 PM
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Usually why I don't play on double exp weekends.

Not classic
Don't want to deal with the immersion
Not really double exp if every mob is killed within seconds of spawning
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:36 PM
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:13 PM
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I really enjoy trying out obscure zones on my alts. Playing in the Warren’s, gorge of king xorbb, runneye, permafrost, rathe mountains, etc has been a blast. I don’t really care about the ZEM.

I’m actually really wanting to try and level an iksar monk or SK all the way to 60 without ever leaving Kunark.
I'm doing this now on an Iksar necro in ALS. Only level 16 but a lot of fun so far. I never let the ZEM dictate where I am going to go, but that Kurns exp is mighty tasty =D
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:26 PM
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I really enjoy trying out obscure zones on my alts. Playing in the Warren’s, gorge of king xorbb, runneye, permafrost, rathe mountains, etc has been a blast. I don’t really care about the ZEM.

I’m actually really wanting to try and level an iksar monk or SK all the way to 60 without ever leaving Kunark.
Without leaving Kunark? Isn't that literally the best way? lol.
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:27 PM
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Try not to worry too much about ZEM. Just kill more merbs make sure they are blue... If ya don't like the exp after a few hours then try a different spot / zone
Unfortunately the entire point of my thread is because I like knowing ZEMs. I like min-maxing. Its the way I enjoy gaming.
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Old 02-27-2018, 08:51 PM
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Unfortunately the entire point of my thread is because I like knowing ZEMs. I like min-maxing. Its the way I enjoy gaming.
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:16 PM
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I thought in-era people used ShowEQ (which was used, but also banned classically)? If not I don't see how they could do it without some variant of what I just described (which admittedly with 7thGate's pixel idea wouldn't be quite as bad.)
ShowEQ was not banned as it wasn't able to be banned if used correctly. Packet sniffing across a network is not something an EQ client would have access to nor would the staff back then.

Now, if you are using the new stuff...well that is another story, I am pretty sure all that nonsense injects and is clearly detectable.
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Old 02-27-2018, 10:17 PM
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ShowEQ was not banned as it wasn't able to be banned if used correctly. Packet sniffing across a network is not something an EQ client would have access to nor would the staff back then.

Now, if you are using the new stuff...well that is another story, I am pretty sure all that nonsense injects and is clearly detectable.
In theory (it may be illegal and/or unethical) they can most certainly detect if you are running ShowEQ.

They can certainly test you in-game (live in era or now) by watching how you play. Most folks who get caught using the program are caught because of unusual behavior as they impossibly track mobs and magically run across entire zones in a bee line for a random spawn they couldn't have known was there, etc.

Sometimes folks just stupidly talk using it by bragging in chat channels.

Using ShowEQ was against the rules and could result in disciplinary actions.
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