Bad Apples in Dozekar

[burkemi5]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what to tell you, then. You must have played on the test server. I used to be a raid leader for one of the top 3 raid guilds on my (blue) server, and in NToV, the first hour of any raid consisted of each guild mounting thinly veiled trains on the other two. As long as you were artful enough about it to not flop a monk in another guild's camp, the GMs didn't care. So nobody cried about it -- part of raiding was absorbing trains by competitor guilds. And things are hardly cleaner on this server. The GMs care more about enforcing play nice policies, but you've still had officers, leaders, and long-term members of both DA and IB suspended for training each other -- so it's not like it hasn't carried over to P99, even if penalties are harsher.

But more importantly, nobody even trained anybody in this situation. It was just a guildie telling his other guildies that he was going to "help Guild B fear their mobs." I play a rogue. I would routinely joke in guildchat about dragging the corpses of my guild's competition onto the nut-sack of Cazic Thule / Nagafen / Trak / Vindi / Vyemm as I voluntarily helped them CR. I never actually did it, and luckily, everyone understood that I was kidding around -- or at least, as guildies of mine, they gave me the benefit of the doubt and waited to see before acting offended. I'm betting 90% chance your guildie never would've actually trained them, and 10% chance that if he did, everyone would be done being butt-hurt about it within an hour.

The fact that nobody actually did anything makes this whole post completely meaningless, though.

QFT again

if you take any of this seriously... then you, are dumb.

[burkemi5]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the worst drama ever. If you have a problem with people telling their own guilds about their intent to train a rival guild -- jokingly or otherwise -- you probably also have issues with things like curse words and bad tea. Quit knitting sweaters and sack up. You could find this series of quotes from any raid guild's guildchat 5 times a week.

If you're gonna enter RnF with screenshots, come hard or go home.

[Redriot]

The tags for this thread had me lulzing. Didn't even have to read a single word in the thread to know this was legit. "Dozekar breaks shit", "Dozekar raid...lol" "Jenni the Skank" lulz "www.tmo.homoguild"

[Droxx]

wait so you mean a naked ogre named running 15 mobs into TMO's camp at WW 30 seconds after we zone in wasn't an accident? who would have thunk it?

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Droxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wait so you mean a naked ogre named running 15 mobs into TMO's camp at WW 30 seconds after we zone in wasn't an accident? who would have thunk it?

Just a little disclaimer: I know very little about this situation and don't want to get personally involved (rather I just want something clarified so that there's actually less drama) - but what I do know is that the situation in question was screenshotted and posted in IRC, and I couldn't help seeing from the screenshot that the person training (wasn't it some Ogre named "Iseeyou" or something silly like that?) wasn't tagged. Granted there was definitely a huge train being shown in the screenshot, but how do you know that it was done by dozekar or whatever other guild was in fear? For example, a few months ago there was a situation where someone trained the shit out of fear, but it was well known that the person wasn't associated with any guild.

Just a thought - not trying to piss anyone off or get on anyone's bad side.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For example, a few months ago there was a situation where someone trained the shit out of fear, but it was well known that the person wasn't associated with any guild.

Just a thought - not trying to piss anyone off or get on anyone's bad side.

Snitches get stitches bro

[burkemi5]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just a little disclaimer: I know very little about this situation and don't want to get personally involved (rather I just want something clarified so that there's actually less drama) - but what I do know is that the situation in question was screenshotted and posted in IRC, and I couldn't help seeing from the screenshot that the person training (wasn't it some Ogre named "Iseeyou" or something silly like that?) wasn't tagged. Granted there was definitely a huge train being shown in the screenshot, but how do you know that it was done by dozekar or whatever other guild was in fear? For example, a few months ago there was a situation where someone trained the shit out of fear, but it was well known that the person wasn't associated with any guild.

Just a thought - not trying to piss anyone off or get on anyone's bad side.

don't even try... it makes your head hurt

[Brad_mo123]

Originally Posted by XDrake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most are good folks. However, this is unacceptable.

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Ok....? So what does this tell us that we do not already know? If you did not already know this about them then you have been living under one hell of a heavy rock.

[ryuut1]

grow up and gtfo out of my guild, you puts. have you even been to a raid where another guild hasn't stolen a mob or trained? it's the way this world of norrath works, so take your A&F Ball-Lovin apparel wearin ass and guildremove before i have to log on and do it for you.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by ryuut1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

grow up and gtfo out of my guild, you puts. have you even been to a raid where another guild hasn't stolen a mob or trained? it's the way this world of norrath works, so take your A&F Ball-Lovin apparel wearin ass and guildremove before i have to log on and do it for you.

Actually, every guild I have been in has never purposely trained or stolen a mob while I was raiding with them (Sullon Zek excluded - war is hell).

I definitely have never been in a guild that logged in an almost naked character to specifically train another guild, which you guys did (Iseeyou).

I also have some nice screenies of one of your necros waiting till we have a boogey almost dead when he charms it and takes it back to his camp.