Best rogue weapons?

[Shiftin]

When you backstab for the minimum 40-45% of the time (which has nothing to do with weapon damage), outside of using disciplines, you have to place more weight on the ratio of the weapon. The faster the weapon, the faster your damage bonus is being applied. A faster weapon does not mean you backstab more often, that timer is only modified by outside haste.

The trak tooth is absolutely the best mainhand you can get for that price, until you want to step it up and get a SCD. The only reason raiding rogues who have done the parses even carry a vox spear is to swap in for duelist backstabs because of the how the duelist modifier works.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you backstab for the minimum 40-45% of the time (which has nothing to do with weapon damage), outside of using disciplines, you have to place more weight on the ratio of the weapon. The faster the weapon, the faster your damage bonus is being applied. A faster weapon does not mean you backstab more often, that timer is only modified by outside haste.

The trak tooth is absolutely the best mainhand you can get for that price, until you want to step it up and get a SCD. The only reason raiding rogues who have done the parses even carry a vox spear is to swap in for duelist backstabs because of the how the duelist modifier works.

My notation on making backstab count just means if the mob turns because your group is full of toolboxes and you slam your button to the mobs face it's frustrating. You do this much with a 30 delay weapon and you have no melee to fall back on. I know it doesn't effect recycle time.

Price is the key factor. You sure about the parses on the trak tooth vs crys spear? I don't know the accuracy of EQ DPM's desktop calculator but it shows the tooth at a substantial loss. People who carry it and swap it every 6 seconds of course don't worry about this. Always been a speed fan myself so I hope you're right.

Edit: As an aside for the non min-maxers the idea of springing for a Crys Spear vs a Trak Tooth doesn't really make sense. When a "substantial" is 10-15% on already a huge amount of DPS your paying out the nose for something that will be irrelevant come epic quests.

[pickled_heretic]

saw a guy in seb double backstabbing for a total of around 1100 with a gunthak harpoon a few days ago. don't underestimate the power of the backstab.

[Slayde]

Crystalline Spear is old news. Get yourself a Serpent's Tooth hehe

[Flunklesnarkin]

best rogue weapon is the power of positive thinking :O!!!

kill them with kindness ~~~~

[Sextar]

Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best rogue weapon is the power of positive thinking :O!!!

kill them with kindness ~~~~

Reverse pickpocketing

[Snaggles]

Swapping has its place. Last time I did it was in the 30s on live between a SBD and Glowing Iron Pike. The extra 1dmg was more hassle and than it was worth because it adds one more thing to deal with on top of positioning and aggro. 3dmg makes sense if you have the means. On our server I never saw these being sold but on P99 they seem relatively affordable.

The people who have a C spear in the bag for BS swapping are clearly pulling the last numbers out of the class for this point in progression. I applaud ye [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Shiftin]

The first half of this post was written before melee tables were changed and backstab distributions were moved from too high to too low. Check the dates.