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Old 07-21-2017, 04:31 PM
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Pulling off the ol self harm touch when you have 6 children... What a shitty thing to do.
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:43 PM
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This is a direct quote from him from earlier this year when asked why he quit a tour

"It was just too hard on my family, so I basically was like, you know what, I’ve got to stop being selfish here. When I’m not doing Linkin Park, I’ve got to be home with my babies."

Obviously knew he meant a lot to his kids, two of which are like 6 years old, still decided to kill him self. I cant pretend that doesnt make him a piece of shit.
how do you rationalize killing youself if you don't care about anyone else? what sorta non-physical pain would make a person who only care about theyself decide to kill theyself? emotional pain never just associated with youself unless you simply lamenting the meaninglessness of you own existence. if you purely self-serving you just gonna do whatever you need to be happy. if he only care about himself, why he not just leave his family and pursue happiness elsewhere?

of course his family not better off without him, but he figure it was, or that at least it did t matter, unless he wanted to spite them, which seems unlikely based on you quote.

so yes, you right, if he kill himself while believing that his family need him, he is selfish, but then it make no sense unless he actively hate them. you think he had contempt for his family?
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:50 PM
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how do you rationalize killing youself if you don't care about anyone else? what sorta non-physical pain would make a person who only care about theyself decide to kill theyself? emotional pain never just associated with youself unless you simply lamenting the meaninglessness of you own existence. if you purely self-serving you just gonna do whatever you need to be happy. if he only care about himself, why he not just leave his family and pursue happiness elsewhere?

of course his family not better off without him, but he figure it was, or that at least it did t matter, unless he wanted to spite them, which seems unlikely based on you quote.

so yes, you right, if he kill himself while believing that his family need him, he is selfish, but then it make no sense unless he actively hate them. you think he had contempt for his family?
People just trolling for giggles now or writing with no sense of logic to their arguments.

I think it's just easier for people to say when someone commits suicide they are being selfish than it is to actually put some thought into the entirety of the situation.

How about the little 14 year old girl who committed suicide after being abused for years by a family member, was she being selfish too?

No logic at all with this argument that suicide is selfish. It has nothing to do with a person being selfish.
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:51 PM
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My heart goes out to all the bad music fans mourning his loss.
I'm not even a fan of his music but I can respect his talent and his ability that was recognized by other musicians who I am a fan of. RIP to a talented musician. When your fat ass leaves this world you won't even leave a ripple.
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:55 PM
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I'm sorry the bad music you like was influenced by his bad music.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:00 PM
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Shit that's a fucking good idea.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:05 PM
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People just trolling for giggles now or writing with no sense of logic to their arguments.

I think it's just easier for people to say when someone commits suicide they are being selfish than it is to actually put some thought into the entirety of the situation.

*Draws false equivalence between suicide of 14 year old girl abused by family and suicide of 40 year old father of 6 children*

No logic at all with this argument that suicide is selfish.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:16 PM
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On mourning the death of a musician we all wish had hung around a little longer.

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I'm not even a fan of his music but I can respect his talent and his ability that was recognized by other musicians who I am a fan of. RIP to a talented musician. When your fat ass leaves this world you won't even leave a ripple.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:16 PM
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So you feel that people can't suffer pain from abuse/past abuse rendering them with such deep feelings of despair and anguish that they have thoughts of suicide even as adults?

His monetary worth had nothing to do with what he dealt with internally, no idea why you brought that up. I guess in your mind, you envy his perceived wealth and feel angry and bitter he threw it all away out of his selfishness?

Oh well, I can't expect everyone to share the same perception or thoughts on topics. I always find such conversations enlightening regardless.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:21 PM
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I don't think fash at all jealous or bitter with him. It that fash understand very clearly that he (fash) is needed and cannot comprehend how someone could possibly think they are not needed especially when they have a very important role such as being a father. it not malicious on his part, it just a matter of perception crippling understanding.
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