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Old 07-12-2017, 10:43 AM
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I'd argue rogues aren't gear dependent at all. Out of all the melee classes, we're the most efficient with low end weapons. The class is just a walking DoT. Worse equipment means a few extra ticks, but the job gets done all the same.

Warriors can cripple a group with a gear and/or skill deficit, so I'd pick them.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:57 AM
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I'd argue rogues aren't gear dependent at all. Out of all the melee classes, we're the most efficient with low end weapons. The class is just a walking DoT. Worse equipment means a few extra ticks, but the job gets done all the same.

Warriors can cripple a group with a gear and/or skill deficit, so I'd pick them.
Yea but all a rogue does is dmg and corpse retrievals. Nobody gives you points for doing more dps than a warrior, it's an assumption.

I remember soloing with two SBD's. That is a rough life. High end rogue primaries are usually slow so your melee dps is even worse and you can't get the BS perk. Warriors with two Ykeshas or even a mith 2h were breezing kobolds in Sol B. I can't imagine that same warrior with a 31/37 staff you can buy for a few hundred plat.

But yes, in a group a warrior has to be geared better. They also have to understand aggro and pulling dynamics which isn't exactly EQ101. Good proc weapons with good ratios aren't cheap. If a new player is going to group most the time I wouldn't push them that direction.
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:54 AM
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Bard is harder than a caster. With casters, you don't actually need gear. Bards need some. They also need their instruments, and their spells are spread all over the world. Plus, bards tend to get encumbered due to heavy armor and relatively low strength. And you're switching weapons constantly to put on your instruments. And you have to twist to be useful, which is hard when mobs keep stunning you and you don't know what to prioritize. And you also have to get familiar with changing targets rapidly if you want to do any CC.

So you're dealing with all of the game's mechanics at once. Sure, clothies have more complicated spells (except the wizard). But players can figure that out by just focusing on their spells and asking around. Bards can't focus on anything. They're constantly distracted. So my vote is bard.

In contrast, I'd say monk is the easiest: low gear dependence and the best oh shit button. Monk only gets a little complicated if people ask you to split camps. And even that is easy to learn.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:04 AM
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For a brand new player, probably enchanter. The noob won't understand what to do with the class and will melee and nuke stuff.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:04 AM
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lol ....Bard plays like most classes from modern mmos, managing multiple abilities quickly (cooldowns) ...so truely new to EQ but not mmos..bard not the hardest..that would probably go to a hybrid who is a subpar warrior prior to 9.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:11 AM
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lol ....Bard plays like most classes from modern mmos, managing multiple abilities quickly (cooldowns) ...so truely new to EQ but not mmos..bard not the hardest..that would probably go to a hybrid who is a subpar warrior prior to 9.
Think you're mixing up "hardest to play" with "will die the most." EverQuest twisting, targeting, and game mechanics are far different from modern MMOs. Bard is about more than hitting a lot of buttons. It's about learning the timing, mechanics, and commands specific to EQ.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:21 AM
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Yeah, there's different meanings for 'hard' going on here. There's 'intellectually hard' and 'hard to take without ragequitting'. Enchanter/Bard would be intellectually hard, ungeared warriors (for instance) would be the other.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:55 AM
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Wizards deserve a shout-out for being difficult to stick with through early levels. They're the most shunned from groups while only being like the sixth or seventh best soloer prior to getting their aoe snare at 29. Sure, they're easy in the sense that they push fewer buttons than almost any other class, but they have it incredibly rough if starting out untwinked.
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Old 07-12-2017, 11:34 AM
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Hardest to play, or hardest to play well? There's a difference.
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Old 07-12-2017, 12:47 PM
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warrior is probably the hardest for a 1st time player since you are so gimp until you get 200k of gear on you and level 52 for evasive disc. Expect to die, a lot.
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