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Old 06-14-2017, 08:03 AM
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P99 IS the ezmode twink server... That's why our pop is so high comparatively.
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:06 AM
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Nope.Here's how a Monk maximizes his DPS on p99:
He aims for the best weapons and haste. Oh and remembers to click
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:37 AM
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EQ Live is horrendous. It's Everquest that tried to be like every other MMO, but wasn't very good at it. If you play EQ Live you may as well play a much better, newer MMO.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:27 PM
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disregard this man's post.
the word press is too closely associated with actual exercise routines for me to want to use it when it comes to an MMO
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:10 PM
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Goto the red server... It's basically easy mode for people that don't want to actually have to lvl up.. something like 230% xp (i think) but from what i have seen on the forums it has extremely rude people..
oh fak you and your bag of clicky goblin nets and /ooc wtb rez in [any zone of the game]
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:11 PM
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Why not just go to the EZ server?
lol came here to say this, there literally is an EZ server in the emu you play RIGHT NOW
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Old 06-15-2017, 08:36 PM
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Nope.Here's how a Monk maximizes his DPS on p99:
He aims for the best weapons and haste. Oh and remembers to click Flying Kick.
I'll thrown in a bone here for mob positioning, cause why not

Here's how a Monk maximizes his DPS on Live:
He aims for the best weapons and haste
He also doesn't forget about that Flying Kick button
But with that Flying Kick button he (OR SHE but let's be real) has an entire hot bar set aside to linked combat attacks/discs that run on separate timers and another for a near constant refresh/cycle of DPS boosting discs that also run on different timers and it's up to you to keep on top of.
And don't forget your Mends, your FDs, your insta-Fade FD, your etc. Haven't played in awhile so maybe I was reaching with 4 (probably thinking of my veteran AA stuff) but 3 easily.

And the biggest difference here is that if you're not doing those things, your DPS kind of sucks. A DPS class with kind of shitty DPS isn't really a very good DPS class, now is it.

Getting into the minutiae of gameplay on high end Live and high end p99 is literally no comparison.

Am I saying it's "Hard" as in impossible? Well, no. Of course not. That's stupid. Even I managed to do it and I'm not the best Monk in the history of evers. But I'm pretty good.

But it's absolutely harder than what someone on p99 can do/has to worry about.

I am only speaking authoritatively on Monks because it's the only class on which I have anything resembling any authority (and I don't have much of that, either)

But to my understanding, it's much the same for every other class.

Even Live Warriors, because they have a lot more skills on hand to manage aggro and defense, have to do a lot more in a raid/group than any p99 Warrior will ever try and fail to have to do.

p99 is waaaay the fuck more unforgiving and is "harder" in a few specific senses, but as far as gameplay is concerned, Live is harder all the way. Let's take off the Verant coloured glasses for a minute, here.
I played often until 2010 and I certainly can back up hte whole hotkey thing. Just like EQ2, there're a lot of hotkeys for abilities. I had a ranger. The best abilities are the ones with long timers. There're a lot of short duration timers I don't like much in EQ1 and EQ2. I enjoyed saving up my long timer AA hotkeys for special occasions in EQ1, like near wipes. P1999 has less of that.

But in all honesty I also grew sick of all the hotbars and keys. It felt very bloated. The other thing is the harshness you dismiss is liked by many, including me. Ther'ere other things make p1999 different too, like no GPS map and not the least of which is the old content still being relevant. You can conceivably go the progression servers for old content, but it's hard to hit that perfet sweet spot inbetween classic and Velious, since it's only a matter of months and they're at luclin and planes of power and beyond. P1999 stayed at Kunark for years and will likely stay at Velious for some time. And being more accurate, it has more historical value for longtime players like me.

I do like some other things on live. I like hte fact kick was made automatic. Why honestly is it better to click it over and over and over during a fight? Nearly instant cooldown repeated abilities of this sort should never have been added. Situation specific abilitiies are good, like hide or feign death or tracking. And some need to be both manual and automatic, like backstab.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:47 PM
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I played often until 2010 and I certainly can back up hte whole hotkey thing. Just like EQ2, there're a lot of hotkeys for abilities. I had a ranger. The best abilities are the ones with long timers. There're a lot of short duration timers I don't like much in EQ1 and EQ2. I enjoyed saving up my long timer AA hotkeys for special occasions in EQ1, like near wipes. P1999 has less of that.

But in all honesty I also grew sick of all the hotbars and keys. It felt very bloated. The other thing is the harshness you dismiss is liked by many, including me. Ther'ere other things make p1999 different too, like no GPS map and not the least of which is the old content still being relevant. You can conceivably go the progression servers for old content, but it's hard to hit that perfet sweet spot inbetween classic and Velious, since it's only a matter of months and they're at luclin and planes of power and beyond. P1999 stayed at Kunark for years and will likely stay at Velious for some time. And being more accurate, it has more historical value for longtime players like me.

I do like some other things on live. I like hte fact kick was made automatic. Why honestly is it better to click it over and over and over during a fight? Nearly instant cooldown repeated abilities of this sort should never have been added. Situation specific abilitiies are good, like hide or feign death or tracking. And some need to be both manual and automatic, like backstab.
Hey I'm not arguing one is better than the other.

I'm just arguing that Live is actually hard, and as far as actual gameplay goes, is harder than p99.

They each have pros and cons and whatnot, but it grinds my gears when people act like p99 is just flat out harder than live when that's just plainly not true. In specific ways, yes.

It's a Marvel vs. DC issue, for me, and one I've never taken sides on. Same with p99 and Live. But bad arguments or silly viewpoints will always bug me.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:48 PM
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The more EQ got automated and convenient the less fun it became, id argue
Automated?

Those 3 hot bars don't click themselves, fella.

Or do you mean like mercs and stuff?

I think they're both fun, but both very different.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:52 PM
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I'm just arguing that Live is actually hard, and as far as actual gameplay goes, is harder than p99.
maybe some small minority of the game, maybe you mean some wierd top tear raid guild?

Either way to say that live is harder than classic or p99 is kinda wrong.

Like take someone who only raids on live, they will get their shit pushed in here.

take someone that only plays p99 they will get reamed in a raid on live.

But overall i found the game to be extremely easy and I had 6 level 60s in short of a month. 2 groups with mercs, all boxed.

LAME and EZ

Oh yeah was using MQ2 per the populations very public assurance that everyone else was, and you could just warp around and kill nameds, the game was retardedly easy.
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