Being realistic about getting Jboots?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...and sell your sow pots with 1 charge left in a 10 dose. You'll save some plat that way, if you're buying at 100pp

That's good advice here, if you get sow pots.

Regarding the comparison of sow pots to jboots, perhaps from a cost perspective it would take a long time to get your money out of jboots, but the thing is there's many advantages to having an insta cast runspeed boost.

IMO they are worth 6-7k. Camp it yourself, or buy the MQ. The jboots never need to be bought again, it's a nice convenience to not have to constantly buy sow pots, or make them yourself. I got a 55 shaman, can make the pots myself and on toons I really enjoy, I still buy jboots for them.

Jboots can be used as a junk buff too.

Regarding players selling jboots:

The people doing Jboot MQs are too invested to "take you for a ride," basically if they got a guild tag and are high enough level to farm the pieces needed for jboots, they aint trying to get suspended off the game.

1. Buy from a guild tagged seller.

2. Ask to see the ring, rapier, etc., if you feel something isn't right.

It's not as dire as you make it sound. If you simply can't be assed to monkey with a jboot camp, just find a way to get the plats to buy them.

Many sellers are selling for 6k now too, so that's a plus!

[Crede]

Don't bother with sow pots. Camp the gazughi ring, sell it, buy jboots. Eventually they will pay for themselves over the pots and the convenience/insta clicky/junk buff factor is way better. As far as I'm concerned, sow pots are only useful for long bits of traveling at higher levels.

[Lowako]

I'd just use SoW pots and ignore jboots for now. I always viewed jboots as a QoL/luxury item. Saves the trouble of dealing with item charges and having to hit up EC frequently, instant click for when you need another junk buff outdoors, using it when you're only running a small distance before you can just get a SoW from a SoW class (the run from HH->ramp in OT) etc.

I don't know what level you are, but levels make plat farming exponentially easier. You can also make a lot of platinum while leveling. I don't know what class you play, but leveling by killing guards from 25->40+ should give you enough money to buy a jboots MQ or put you very close. However, I'd advise against buying a jboots MQ and putting that money toward SoW potions and high impact items like a weapon, haste item, focus effect, or clicky.

[Squabbles123]

This whole thread makes me really wanna work on my Alchemy tonight.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Squabbles123 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This whole thread makes me really wanna work on my Alchemy tonight.

Enjoy sitting in EC getting terrible profit. Simply because p99 has so, so many more shaman than there was back on live during velious. People cycle through EC sellings pots 24/7.

If SoW pots cost ~65pp to make and you sell them for 100. That's 35pp profit. Let's say you get lucky and sell 20 in an hour.. That's only 700pp in that one hour. And I'm 100% not exaggerating about getting lucky. You would have to be the only person selling them and just happen to have someone who needs them. More realistically you'd be lucky if you sold 10, 10 does in an hour.

Then there is the cost to train any tradeskill. You'd be better off getting to 60 and obtaining torpor than starring at the EC tunnel walls and some fat ogre's butt crack in the distance.

There are other potions ofc but again the profit just isn't really there in terms of the sell price vs the time it takes to sell them. But it's a fun past time if you're drinking or doing other stuff. Super annoying having to constantly hit Shift Up to spam your WTS message though. Especially when you're only looking at ~35pp profit per unit. bleh

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Fun Fact: If you want to make your own SoW pots you only need to level a shaman alt to 32. I recommend Barb for a Sow Pot Mule.

[Squabbles123]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enjoy sitting in EC getting terrible profit. Simply because p99 has so, so many more shaman that there was back on live during velious. People cycle through EC sellings pots 24/7.

If SoW pots cost ~65pp to make and you sell them for 100. That's 35pp profit. Let's say you get lucky and sell 20 in an hour.. That's only 700pp in that one hour. And I'm 100% not exaggerating about getting lucky. You would have to be the only person selling them and just happen to have someone who needs them.

Then there is the cost to train any tradeskill. You'd be better off getting to 60 and obtaining torpor than starring at the EC tunnel walls and some fat ogre's butt crack in the distance.

Well, I plan to level Alchemy anyway (along with the skills needed to make color plate armors), so its not a big deal.

I don't really plan to raid and the cost of Torpor is just stupid, so I'll probably just ignore it and not bother TBH. My Shaman is mostly my "soloist" anyway, I have another character thats more for being social.

But yeah, if an item costs like 10,000 or more, I just ignore its existence because there is no reason it needs to cost that much, so I refuse to give people the satisfaction of ripping me off for it.

[spectrefax]

Thanks for the all the replies. Apologies about the tone of my OP as I had just wrote it after spending several hours getting AC to spawn in S RO, only to watch about 5 people port in at 9pm game time (this was 4-5am pacific time, doesn't get much more off-hours than that) and then losing the AC to one of them.

Currently using SoW potions, and I think they're a solid buy. I always stay stocked, but would definitely like the Jboots for the reasons many have already outlined in this thread.

As for me "not be willing to camp" or however it was put, I have no problem in doing a camp. In fact, I rather enjoy the rare spawn camps in zones like this. I've looted A Glowing Black stone from Pyzjn twice (one on live back in the day and once here) and killed her much more than that. I've also obtained Ring of the Ancients twice back on live by doing the S Ro camp.

I would absolutely love to camp the AC in S Ro like in days past, but, as I've said, Nilbog rewrote the script so that the S RO spawn is now basically a free-for-all clusterfunk at 9pm. My primary gripe with this entire thing would be the rewriting of the AC spawn in S RO... I really just can't even fathom how it was thought to be a good idea to rewrite the one spot in the game where players who can't/won't camp the OOT spawn had a decent change of getting a ring without fierce competition and changing into the 9pm crap show it is currently.

This was always the draw to the AC camp in S Ro, it wasn't as consistent as the OOT spawn, but it came with much less competition. The rewrite of the spawn script tosses this out the window and changes the camp into one of the least likely spots for one to acquire a ring thanks to that 9pm dinner bell.

Anyway, that's enough ranting from me... If MQ'ing is as safe as everyone seems to imply, then I'll just save my pennies. Thanks again for all the insight, everyone, see ya in-game.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by spectrefax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the all the replies. Apologies about the tone of my OP as I had just wrote it after spending several hours getting AC to spawn in S RO, only to watch about 5 people port in at 9pm game time (this was 4-5am pacific time, doesn't get much more off-hours than that) and then losing the AC to one of them.

Currently using SoW potions, and I think they're a solid buy. I always stay stocked, but would definitely like the Jboots for the reasons many have already outlined in this thread.

As for me "not be willing to camp" or however it was put, I have no problem in doing a camp. In fact, I rather enjoy the rare spawn camps in zones like this. I've looted A Glowing Black stone from Pyzjn twice (one on live back in the day and once here) and killed her much more than that. I've also obtained Ring of the Ancients twice back on live by doing the S Ro camp.

I would absolutely love to camp the AC in S Ro like in days past, but, as I've said, Nilbog rewrote the script so that the S RO spawn is now basically a free-for-all clusterfunk at 9pm. My primary gripe with this entire thing would be the rewriting of the AC spawn in S RO... I really just can't even fathom how it was thought to be a good idea to rewrite the one spot in the game where players who can't/won't camp the OOT spawn had a decent change of getting a ring without fierce competition and changing into the 9pm crap show it is currently.

This was always the draw to the AC camp in S Ro, it wasn't as consistent as the OOT spawn, but it came with much less competition. The rewrite of the spawn script tosses this out the window and changes the camp into one of the least likely spots for one to acquire a ring thanks to that 9pm dinner bell.

Anyway, that's enough ranting from me... If MQ'ing is as safe as everyone seems to imply, then I'll just save my pennies. Thanks again for all the insight, everyone, see ya in-game.

There is no 'getting ac to spawn'. He just has a 10% chance to pop every 9pm. I found a guy once doing what you were doing, he had been doing it for hours. When I got the AC I felt so bad for him I just let him loot the ring. Rezbot could wait.

[spectrefax]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no 'getting ac to spawn'. He just has a 10% chance to pop every 9pm. I found a guy once doing what you were doing, he had been doing it for hours. When I got the AC I felt so bad for him I just let him loot the ring. Rezbot could wait.

Yes, I believe you're correct, which is part of my gripe. Why this spawn was rewritten in this fashion is beyond me. I mean, it basically made it such that this camp is now nothing more than a snipefest with a static, 3 minute window that encourages bad player behavior. The lack of forethought here is just mind boggling and doesn't mirror the classic experience p99 prides itself on because the spawn never operated in this fashion during launch-velious era on live.

I'll concede that the spawn event of yore was in need of a rewrite, but the rewrite that was implemented is just beyond awful.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by spectrefax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why this spawn was rewritten in this fashion is beyond me. I mean, it basically made it such that this camp is now nothing more than a snipefest with a static, 3 minute window that encourages bad player behavior. The lack of forethought here is just mind boggling and doesn't mirror the classic experience p99 prides itself on because the spawn never operated in this fashion during launch-velious era on live.

I'll concede that the spawn event of yore was in need of a rewrite, but the rewrite that was implemented is just beyond awful.

Explain how you think the ancient cyclops worked on live.