clearly original devs didn't like warriors

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by KEWLGET [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

trakanon was a blue dragon

He's greener than a motherfucker!

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/GU Derakor the Vindicator in 144s, 188k @1303 --- Naethyn 18k --- Zerious 15k --- Samila 14k --- A Drakkel Dire Wolf 11k --- Luddo 11k --- Cashrip 9k --- Kelzaraz 9k --- Fullpint 8k --- Garou 7k --- Narshe 7k

/GU Derakor the Vindicator in 163s, 206k @1262 --- Naethyn 19k --- Rupees 18k --- Mudwart 17k --- Seedss 17k --- Sweati 16k --- Demons 16k --- Braap 15k --- Samila 12k --- Quickfist 10k --- Dennys 10k

Funny, I always top my DPS meters too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warriors got butt jacked big league. I hate say it, but warriors are the worst class in the game and also my favorite. Even with ultra fab gear, they still can't gold their own.

Verant decided in the games development to make a really low dps class, with a smidgen of hp bonus, and a propensity for dieing. this class would do less damage than all other classes, tank worse than a pal, sk, or monk, and have a taunt skill that does virtually nothing. The class would also be utterly reliant on gear and other characters for pitty exp.

The End

Interestingly, bash stun was meant to generate similar aggro to spell stun, they just goofed up. It was only around the time of DoN that the devs realised they had goofed the code. They didn't bother fixing it, because the balance of the game had shifted so much since vanilla and itemisation had changed to fit around this broken mechanic. Similarly for many years taunt was not programmed to function as intended (almost zero success rate on high cons), so using that mechanic to keep aggro sucked too.

Regardless, EQ was designed to be a collaborative game. I have zero problems with the group game being designed around rooting a mob and having the melee sit on top of it swinging. I actually find it more interesting than just spamming aggro abilities
for autotank.

Originally Posted by Kender [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they hated them so much that the made them the only ones capable of taking a punch to the face from the biggest bosses in the game

Only from Kunark is this really the case (evasive/defensive discs).

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

End game, and I mean end game, warriors are pretty much rogues with tremendous hp. My friend abandoned his rogue to main warrior in Velious. Was a smart decision as it lead to a much more interesting and versatile character. #1 DPS if he wants to, and very respectable DPS if he doesn't.

This is an interesting point, when I was on live and I rolled my raiding character one of the reasons I chose warrior is because our scrub raids always had rogues drop like flies. I realised if I rolled warrior I could survive the entire fight my living scrub warrior would outdamage a dead scrub rogue, especially with some of the discs warriors had access to!

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warriors got butt jacked big league. I hate say it, but warriors are the worst class in the game and also my favorite. Even with ultra fab gear, they still can't gold their own.

Verant decided in the games development to make a really low dps class, with a smidgen of hp bonus, and a propensity for dieing. this class would do less damage than all other classes, tank worse than a pal, sk, or monk, and have a taunt skill that does virtually nothing. The class would also be utterly reliant on gear and other characters for pitty exp.

The End

Threads like this really make my day. Can we get some more senseless knowledge up in here?

[Swish]

You know original EQ wasn't meant to be a game intended for soloing, you were supposed to make new friends and be a team

T ogether
Everyone
A chieves
M ore

<3

Sidenote: Rogues also can't do much solo. It's not fair you guys.

[Tarskin]

It is very clear that the OP either rolled a warrior as his main and is struggling through the mid levels (which is really horrendous on a server where most people are twinked to some extent) or he is trolling.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt and expert the former, in which case all I can say is to hang on and in the end game, we are awesome sauce with a cherry on top.

[Jimjam]

Yeah, if you are a struggling warrior, one of the absolute best things you can do is to ask the wizard or ranger in the group if they would be kind enough to root the tanked mob.

Stand on it's toes and it will swing at you regardless of who is on the top of the hate list.

This is a great strategy as whilst the mob is rooted it can be slowed 1) without having the mob move out of place and 2) the warrior has 30 seconds to drop a couple of taunts to try piggyback off that high initial slow aggro.

I've levelled several warriors on p1999, often with 'self found' gear, and even with lacklustre weapons, I've found it trivial to control tanking provided a little effort towards communication and team work was made.

Note, once mobs are in their 50s they will begin summoning. While they will continue to face whoever is the closest player, they will actually swing at the most hated player within melee range.

[Ennewi]

It's fitting that warriors take time to come into their own from 1-60 given that they take time to get aggro on a mob. Not even looking at tankability, war aggro nowadays seems way better compared to before, pre-Velious. Try peeling aggro off a warrior 2 minutes into a fight in HoT. A warrior with Infest/Frost. I've tried on SK just for yucks, refresh spamming sv/dis cloud ad nauseam, and it felt demoralizing, utterly futile.

[Lifebar]

Warrior was my main (and only) on live from Kunark until I quit in GoD. I was not a raider, and I just assumed the game was way harder than it is. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tetsuo]

Green Dragon Scales + Efreeti Belt (only 41% haste belt requiring the efreeti spawns)

Someone somewhere wanted to make warrior gear a pain in the bum