Pantheon - anyone been keeping track?

[Caiu]

Just another cash in by known drug addict Mcquaid. This is a man who undeniably stole pain medication from his own employees during his tenure on Vanguard. It's laughable that people are under the delusion that he had anything to do with what made EQ magical originally. Personally if it ever is actually released I expect a barebones hack job but more than likely vaporware is in the picture more than an actual release.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

? Uh, yeah. I've been keeping track for about 2 years now. I am a contributor, which means I paid some money on their kickstarter and I now am supposed to get early access.
It looks ok, I'm not one to overhype these things. I liked Vanguard and loved EQ, so I figured I'd like this one too. As long as its hard and you can't pay to win I'll be happy.

Vanguard broke my heart and I haven't been the same since. I keep my expectations pretty low these days to avoid that disappointment. If nothing else it will be fun leveling up and exploring in a new game.

[branamil]

Have 0 expectations from it and there is a small chance they'll be exceeded.

[Hitmonkey]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. Pantheon could literally copy every race, class, and zone from EQ, exactly, and as long as they replaced everything that's protected, ie. made entirely new art assets, gave the guild leaders new text, renamed everything, wrote fresh code

You seem like the local derper to keep revisiting this incorrectly, and left out the "excecution" part of the "idea + execution=IP" part. Vaguely laid out "ideas" get copyright all the time (looking at you apple) especially in the software field (my field).

The same reason DC never made a Wolverine character and just called him Bob is the same reason you can't copy a software game idea thats executed the same way (MMO) with the same game mechanics (monk fd is a good example -which is the key part and why you've never seen another game with a class called monk with the skill called feign death) and just rename stuff, which is what caught my eye.

... actually was thinking somebody was going to mention that he had a deal with DB to use the IP. ~ back to the original point I was actually quite disappointed there's just going to be a refresh a EQ and not a new idea

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Hitmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

monk fd is a good example -which is the key part and why you've never seen another game with a class called monk with the skill called feign death

So, I'm not looking for a specific law or statute or anything, but can you even point me to a wikipedia page of a general concept which suggests that a company could prevent another company from doing something as generic as make a monk with FD?

Because maybe, just maybe, the reason you don't see FD monks in other games has nothing whatsoever to do with IP, and everything to do with the fact that when most people think of a monk they picture Bruce Lee or Jet Li, not some guy lying on the ground pretending to be dead. Well that and the fact that most MMOs don't even have monks.

[dcbone86]

Originally Posted by Hitmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of IP Google lawyers in here I see lol.

If you watch the latest live stream of game play the monk, cleric, and enchanter class are straight rips from current EQ. Skills, spells, class name, game mechanics... Lifted straight from EQ.

All I was saying is if i noticed it you know DB did and you can't do that. It's the "idea" + "excecution" that makes a IP for all you Google lawyers out there, and I was surprised to see such a clear copy.

You apparently failed your Google fu training because it's code, art/assets and music that are protected in video games. Unless DB can prove they ripped code or assets, it's not infringing. You know, cuz "monks" and "clerics" and fantasy characters casting spells in 3rd person with hot bars and buttons UI is unique to EQ and daybreak is the only company who can use them in their games. Lmao get out of here.

[Rummol]

Vanguard had a monk class that could feign death. The class name (monk) and the skill name (feign death) were exactly the same as EQ as well. I didn't see VG getting sued.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In before some genius chimes in saying how much Brad sucks (after playing a game by Brad non stop for 18 years and posting on a forum about a Brad's game).

Originally Posted by Caiu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just another cash in by known drug addict Mcquaid. This is a man who undeniably stole pain medication from his own employees during his tenure on Vanguard. It's laughable that people are under the delusion that he had anything to do with what made EQ magical originally. Personally if it ever is actually released I expect a barebones hack job but more than likely vaporware is in the picture more than an actual release.

1000 points to Izmael. Caiu takes over the role of thefloydian.

[Tankdan]

Originally Posted by Hitmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The same reason DC never made a Wolverine character and just called him Bob is the same reason you can't copy a software game idea thats executed the same way (MMO) with the same game mechanics (monk fd is a good example -which is the key part and why you've never seen another game with a class called monk with the skill called feign death) and just rename stuff, which is what caught my eye.

Bruh my IQ just dropped exceptionally low after reading this. Literally every game out there right now does this.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Hitmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

with the same game mechanics (monk fd is a good example -which is the key part and why you've never seen another game with a class called monk with the skill called feign death) and just rename stuff, which is what caught my eye.

Did EQ even invent Feign Death? I am pretty sure that's been in D&D forever.