Rather eye opening really ...

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's the bad ones that just pet attack and AFK that ruin the image of the classes entirely. It's just too easy to be just a partial contributor as a pet class than actually doing anything impressive.

Exactly. People here even tell people to roll mages if they are lazy and don't want to press buttons while playing a videogame.

[Jimjam]

What got me on live was a mage could just pay a few dozen pp and a malachite and would have a tank better than an entry level geared tank for each expansion.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Lowako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything I'd complain about the strength of charm pets. They typically do about as well as rogues, but even then its not worth complaining because charmed pets have a chance to completely fucking delete the caster whenever it feels like. A properly geared up and buffed charmed pet can do upwards of like 200 dps vs undead mobs though, so I suppose that is a bit strong given the utility the caster can provide as well.

I remember playing Enchanter on a Yael raid once where I charmed a fully buffed, dual wielding ratman warrior. I smoked everybody else in total damage done. It was ridiculously double the next person. I didn't get the kill EXP because it was all casters in my group, including an epic Mage. In typical fashion, he was AFK the entire fight. Didn't cast a single nuke. I'm not even sure he told his pet to attack.

That's why people don't like Mages (or Necros).

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Darguth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not exactly the point. Getting solid melee gear to scale up is not trivial. Getting a new summon spell is fairly trivial.

On the flip side that level 53 necro pet will always be a level 53 necro pet. The level 53 monk, ranger, warrior, or rogue will potentially one day be level 60 - possibly with amazingly powerful gear.

Melee classes peak later and generally to a much more pronounced degree.

[tyrant49333]

So what you're saying is your pet is the best DPS in a group with no DPS classes .... Grats?

[Darguth]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the flip side that level 53 necro pet will always be a level 53 necro pet. The level 53 monk, ranger, warrior, or rogue will potentially one day be level 60 - possibly with amazingly powerful gear.

Melee classes peak later and generally to a much more pronounced degree.

Never being a hardcore poopsocker, this is little consolation to players such as myself [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Thiefboy777]

Was in a Hands group and this guy charms the Undead Jailer gave it the 36% haste velium sword, did well over 200, 220-240.

[meadtj]

Talk about a nostalgia moment... I remember the first time I saw a real necro play in a group in lower guk and he cc'd 6 frogs. I was blown away bc it was stuff I didnt see decent chanters come close to doing very often. It was ridonculous. When he didnt have many mobs he was transferring mana to cleric and draining mobs of hp. It was OP. Problem is most necros don't ever master this stuff bc they like to solo all the time. So its RARE to find the really good ones that like to group.