Policy on pulling pathers

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like with seafuries and HGs who have started wandering from their initial spawn points.

IS there a policy for this? Or some kind of Or should I, too, mem a fast-casting spell and do my best to ninja mobs out from under the noses of other people who are obviously about 2 seconds away from pulling with a REAL spell that a fight should actually be started with?

Don't mean to complain too much really, cause if it's common practice to be a dick... I'll be a dick too and not give it another thought.


Was I expecting too much from the average p99 player, to think that they would actually let me pull with cascading darkness instead of having to try pull shit diseae cloud and run the mob away so that no one else can kill it? I really thought that was the kind of shit that I left behind when I quit WoW... and even in WoW, you only see people doing that for the first week of a new expansion.

Quit being a giant vagina and pull with disease cloud.

[Autotune]

you can use clinging, but i don't really like it.

I use engulfing darkness. Takes 2.5 secs to cast, and I never have problems with taggin furies.

Every now and then a mage will try to tag one after i started casting, but mine will still land and still take aggro and I generally still kill it like normal unless the mage decides to use all his mana to nuke it down.


anyhow, GL.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every now and then a mage will try to tag one after i started casting, but mine will still land and still take aggro and I generally still kill it like normal unless the mage decides to use all his mana to nuke it down.

This is what tends to happen with me.

Once in a while someone will aggro, via pet or proximity or nuke, a seafury when I have just started my darkness cast, and the seafury will be pulled too far away from me before my spell finishes... so I lose the seafury. That's fine by me, I can live with it.

What pisses me off is that I get blamed when someone else thinks when they hit a seafury for 6 damage after I've already been casting a spell on it for the last 6 seconds, and then I get the cyclops on me after cascading darkness finishes... that I did something wrong. The result would be the same if I used a level 1 spell, except that in the situation where I sometimes lose a seafury cause they get pulled out of range of CD would happen less often.

Me doing things this way actually gives everyone else MORE of a chance to get more kills, but people are bitching at me for using a real spell instead of fucking lifetap or disease cloud or clinging darkness, anyways.

[fischsemmel]

So let's say I do start pulling with clinging darkness or disease cloud. They have 1.5- and 1.8-second casts, respectively.

It is still going to happen, now and again, that someone else and I are both starting our casts within a second or two of each other. AKA the casts are happening close enough together that they are both going to go off. And when my spell lands, it is going to pull aggro off of the low-level mage nuke or proximity or whatever.

And I'm still going to get people complaining, cause while I'm running off with the cyclops, they're going to be looking at their combat log until they see that they actually started the original cast .1 seconds before I did, and that their initial cast finished .1 seconds before mine did.

But see the problem here? Regarding their cast starting first... I get told I'm a whiner when I point out that it's stupid that I don't get credit for being the first to engage something until my spell FINISHES... I get told I'm a baddie because I want to pull with cascading darkness instead of disease cloud... but other people are going to bitch that my disease cloud landed after their whatever but I still got aggro. Zomg killstealer!

And regarding their cast LANDING first, it just isn't fucking realistic to expect me to sort that shit out while I'm playing the game.


So you guys are gonna say "just be an adult about it and share kills!"

I'm willing to do that, but no one else is. That's why everyone except me pulls shit with level 1 spells or a sow'ed pet, because they can't fucking let a single kill get away from them.


I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Someone is going to bitch no matter what I do.

Basically it's like I said before. 90% of the time I cast cascading on something and it actually goes off, I was going to get that seafury anyways, because if I were using clinging/disease cloud my spell would have landed 2 seconds before yours did anyways.

[Autotune]

only difference is that your spell takes so long to cast, you normally have time to cancel yours before it lands.

if you are landing yours right after their cast, then fuck it.

if you see it land and yet you still sit there with a full second to duck it. then you are in the wrong.

if i get my 2.5 started and someone tries to beat me with using a lvl 1 nuke, they will lose every time. Either mine will land first, same, or a split second later. Either way I'm killing it.


also you can claim a single spawn of a seafury as camped, so if they say they are, you have to leave it alone, but if they get up, it's free game. Though, most intelligent people realize more plat to be made by fighting for them.

Often I see mages sit pets near spawn points, and I'll roll up and park my ass right ontop of the spawn (benefit of knowing the island) and aggro it first and let my pet tag it for me.



that's about how it goes, no real rules that I've seen for seafuries. It's really the best competition in the game atm.

Note: 4am and I think this states what I mean.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only difference is that your spell takes so long to cast, you normally have time to cancel yours before it lands.

if you are landing yours right after their cast, then fuck it.

if you see it land and yet you still sit there with a full second to duck it. then you are in the wrong.

How am I in the wrong? THE SAME THING HAPPENS whether I use cascading and someone interjects a level 1 nuke, and then cascading finishes and I get aggro anyways, or I use disease cloud and pull the thing before the other person even starts their cast.

Except, as I have said twice before, when I use cascading to pull, it sometimes happens that the NPC I'm targetted wanders out of range or gets pulled out of range before my spell finishes.

Me using cascading is what I want to do AND it lets everyone else in the game get more seafuries, but people are STILL bitching about it.

[xshayla701]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quit being a giant vagina and pull with disease cloud.

and LOL at the black baby

[Extunarian]

wow, fischsemmel...between this post and the FBSS rarity post its pretty obvious that you come here posting 'questions' but really only want to have your opinions validated.

A mob isn't yours when you start "casting on it." You have to land the spell. Everyone is telling you this and you still seem to think you have an argument. You are either stupid or closed minded...I'm guessing 70/30.

[Opaline]

Stop whining, learn from the experience (and what others have said) and move on.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wow, fischsemmel...between this post and the FBSS rarity post its pretty obvious that you come here posting 'questions' but really only want to have your opinions validated.

A mob isn't yours when you start "casting on it." You have to land the spell. Everyone is telling you this and you still seem to think you have an argument. You are either stupid or closed minded...I'm guessing 70/30.

What he said. Dude is a gigantic tool.