Open Question to Blue's "Competitive" Raiders

[kotton05]

I was apart of the seb battle of ages that jeremy has a video of stashed somewhere along with sirken. Was kind of cool def not the vibe most blues can stand for long.

[Transylvania]

Moving to Red immediately. My plan: to gain 60 asap and get pk'ed several times per hour and corpse camped.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Transylvania [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Moving to Red immediately. My plan: to gain 60 asap and get pk'ed several times per hour and corpse camped.

That's called "competition" over there.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is better about competition on Blue than competition on Red that makes you want to compete on Blue and not on Red?

The players/community of red was absolute dog shit. I tried it up to lvl 54 and came across like 3 people I would consider normal. The global ooc is aids too.

[mickmoranis]

guys can we try again on page 3 please, ill be in other threads not reading this one though.

[jakerees]

Played on red awhile back. Never dealt with any griefers or corpse campers. Never actually got killed at all by another player. That's heir problem rightness now. Their players can respond to people who say they dont want to play there and get griefed by assholes by saying that doesn't happen anymore, because it doesn't. But if they actually succeeded in getting people to play red and doubled or tripled the population, you would start to see more of that shit.

[Ya momma]

I've raided blue. It's really not fun at all. It's a handful of super hardcore people that don't work or work from home. They're either streaming with Google Hangouts for other "watchers" to scream into an wakeup channel or their standing at a starting line to foot race. The footrace competition is only between a handful of these hardcore's, mostly the same ones every mob,and usually officers, leaders, and obviously the top DKP guys.

Once a dragon is up the batphones and wakeup channel get hit. You literally have minutes to show up before the raid target is dead. This means already at your computer usually and if you aren't already in position or have multiple max level toons to split positions, it ain't happening. It's a real bitch to be honest.

If you're able to participate in the "tracking" activities and kill some mobs your getting good DKP (tracking is worth X multiplier of points). Then you have to bid against the hardcore's with tons of alts. Mobs have wild variance on top of all that, so statistically it's almost impossible to get something considered good - best in slot.

...Then there is the price inflation and over camping of tradeables and non raid camps. Good luck.

I've been trying red. It's got a very hostile ooc with people that have been maxed out fighting each other for ever and have tons of resentment for one another. There's absolutely NO low level population. I'm not sure if they even get new people up, or if it's just cycles of alt twinks. I've been having to solo in empty zones my entire stay so far. There isn't even a market for gear.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Ya momma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've raided blue. It's really not fun at all. It's a handful of super hardcore people that don't work or work from home. They're either streaming with Google Hangouts for other "watchers" to scream into an wakeup channel or their standing at a starting line to foot race. The footrace competition is only between a handful of these hardcore's, mostly the same ones every mob,and usually officers, leaders, and obviously the top DKP guys.

Once a dragon is up the batphones and wakeup channel get hit. You literally have minutes to show up before the raid target is dead. This means already at your computer usually and if you aren't already in position or have multiple max level toons to split positions, it ain't happening. It's a real bitch to be honest.

If you're able to participate in the "tracking" activities and kill some mobs your getting good DKP (tracking is worth X multiplier of points). Then you have to bid against the hardcore's with tons of alts. Mobs have wild variance on top of all that, so statistically it's almost impossible to get something considered good - best in slot.

...Then there is the price inflation and over camping of tradeables and non raid camps. Good luck.

I've been trying red. It's got a very hostile ooc with people that have been maxed out fighting each other for ever and have tons of resentment for one another. There's absolutely NO low level population. I'm not sure if they even get new people up, or if it's just cycles of alt twinks. I've been having to solo in empty zones my entire stay so far. There isn't even a market for gear.

My exact sentiment. I am not familiar with how red works, but everything you speak of concerning blue is how I perceive raiding here.

It's disappointing no doubt, and what I did once I became jaded with the raid scene was create new toons and level them doing things I missed on older toons. Now I do solo and grouping in lower levels, and hope to continue my soloing in higher levels, trying more challenging zones that I never been to.

I personally don't see how the raid scene on blue is fulfilling to the fringe raiders which is probably 90% of the raiders.

The 10% are hardcores that run and organize the raid guilds and as such they are the ones getting the majority of the pixels whether it's their mains or any one of their personal army of alts.

After about 2 months of seeing this process in action I understood raiding on blue wasn't for me. The level of greed astounded me, especially considering the gains are pixels.

I enjoyed reading your experience on red, only because I considered trying that too, but the lack of population has always discouraged me from bothering.

I will just stick to my plan on blue, leveling and grouping for fun, with the goal of soloing high level zones one day.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My exact sentiment. I am not familiar with how red works, but everything you speak of concerning blue is how I perceive raiding here.

It's disappointing no doubt, and what I did once I became jaded with the raid scene was create new toons and level them doing things I missed on older toons. Now I do solo and grouping in lower levels, and hope to continue my soloing in higher levels, trying more challenging zones that I never been to.

I personally don't see how the raid scene on blue is fulfilling to the fringe raiders which is probably 90% of the raiders.

The 10% are hardcores that run and organize the raid guilds and as such they are the ones getting the majority of the pixels whether it's their mains or any one of their personal army of alts.

After about 2 months of seeing this process in action I understood raiding on blue wasn't for me. The level of greed astounded me, especially considering the gains are pixels.

I enjoyed reading your experience on red, only because I considered trying that too, but the lack of population has always discouraged me from bothering.

I will just stick to my plan on blue, leveling and grouping for fun, with the goal of soloing high level zones one day.

It's still possible to enjoy SOME raiding on blue as a casual. I just watch guild chat and show up for some of the smaller/quicker raid targets. I absolutely refuse to go for any mobs that require poopsocking. I remember in particular one time several guilds all stacking up at KC while Venril Sathir was in window, all of them congregating there just for a CHANCE at possibly killing him sometime in the next several hours. I avoid those situations like the plague but have still been able to enjoy some more casual raiding.

[Papa]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's still possible to enjoy SOME raiding on blue as a casual. I just watch guild chat and show up for some of the smaller/quicker raid targets. I absolutely refuse to go for any mobs that require poopsocking. I remember in particular one time several guilds all stacking up at KC while Venril Sathir was in window, all of them congregating there just for a CHANCE at possibly killing him sometime in the next several hours. I avoid those situations like the plague but have still been able to enjoy some more casual raiding.

yea exactly, there are people who want to experience all of the content (not just some of it) but aren't willing to stoop to poopsock levels that others are. for them, i say consider phinigel.