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Old 02-03-2017, 04:56 AM
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JBB is probably the most over-rated item in the game. It simply does not offer enough DPS to be useful. Using one will lower your efficiency.

The best case scanario, of an Ogre Shaman in melee range can do about 10% more dps with a JBB than with a GFG (and about the same dps with a PWC vs giant sized mobs) BUT the meleeing Shaman can canni without losing dps (as the canni cast does not reset the swing timer).

If you are trying to Rot mobs then the JBB will greatly increase the amount of recasts you need for Immobolise/Paralysing Earth, killing efficiency. And even if root never breaks, it would still only offer more DPS over canni-dancing for extra DoT casts between L45 and L53 when Canni-dance offers more DoT DPS than JBB.

If you have 14k sitting there, buy an Ceremonial Iksar Chestplate which you can sell when you have enough of the balance for a Fungi.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:03 PM
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It is most useful for the lowest levels where you can click it - after that it's meh. At the high level you do more damage using your spells + canni/med/etc.

As has been pointed out it is not a "free to cast spell" given its long cast time. You give up mana (med and canni), hp (sitting regen bonus), melee dps (if meleeing), and flexibility in support jobs while clicking.

If soloing, root breaks also means casting it costs you health in getting beat on.

Decent tool in certain situations but over-rated.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:32 PM
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Old 02-03-2017, 02:52 PM
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Yeah it's useful, but it's not a game changer. A fungi is a game changer.
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Old 02-03-2017, 02:55 PM
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Yeah it's useful, but it's not a game changer. A fungi is a game changer.
Right, but he can't get a fungi yet.

JBB will make leveling easier thus making it easier for him to farm for plats for a fungi.

If he finds it less useful than he had hoped it can be treated as an investment and sold later to help him get a fungi when he has more plats saved.

Just get the JBB it doesn't make any sense to not have it, and to try it. You can't get a fungi yet, and honestly an iksar bp is less useful imo compared to the JBB.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:08 PM
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Right, but he can't get a fungi yet.

JBB will make leveling easier thus making it easier for him to farm for plats for a fungi.

If he finds it less useful than he had hoped it can be treated as an investment and sold later to help him get a fungi when he has more plats saved.

Just get the JBB it doesn't make any sense to not have it, and to try it. You can't get a fungi yet, and honestly an iksar bp is less useful imo compared to the JBB.
No, he can get a Ceremonial Iksar Chestplate which DOES help him instead of a JBB which does not.

Slower levelling is not easier levelling.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:21 PM
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I have nothing to add to this conversation except that shamans getting a cheapish, tradeable clicky nuke at such a low level despite having a multitude of other efficient ways to solo and group is just about the most obnoxious thing ever. Wizards do nothing but nuke yet have to wait until 60 and join a raid guild to get a chance at a comparable item. And here you are all talking about how useless the shaman clicky bracer is when a clicky robe is the single most useful item a wizard can get. The original EQ developers deserve a beating.

That's all. Carry on.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:49 AM
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I have nothing to add to this conversation except that shamans getting a cheapish, tradeable clicky nuke at such a low level despite having a multitude of other efficient ways to solo and group is just about the most obnoxious thing ever. Wizards do nothing but nuke yet have to wait until 60 and join a raid guild to get a chance at a comparable item. And here you are all talking about how useless the shaman clicky bracer is when a clicky robe is the single most useful item a wizard can get. The original EQ developers deserve a beating.

That's all. Carry on.
Agreed.

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Old 02-03-2017, 03:22 PM
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No, he can get a Ceremonial Iksar Chestplate which DOES help him instead of a JBB which does not.

Slower levelling is not easier levelling.
That's fine we can agree to disagree, or I can anyway. He can do as he wants, makes no difference to me.

I simply shared my experience with him, and if anything I shared helps I am happy for that. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:29 PM
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Yeah you can't argue with somebodies experience, it is what it is. I guess people just like the idea of a mana free nuke, and that's legit. But if you really look at it from a rigorous perspective, the JBB is meh in terms of opportunity cost and actual killing rate increase, whereas regen is a powerful increase, no matter how somebody feels about it.
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