Triple Attack! Items That Will Be In Demand!

[Naethyn]

Lets give warriors block while using a shield while we're at it.

[EdTuBrutus]

Monks definitely need a boost at this point. Monks have to put in a lot of effort but still get outdpsed by Rogues who have no proper involvement in the game, so get away with just reading webpages between begging for buffs then turn around and top the DPS pressing two buttons.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by EdTuBrutus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks definitely need a boost at this point. Monks have to put in a lot of effort but still get outdpsed by Rogues who have no proper involvement in the game, so get away with just reading webpages between begging for buffs then turn around and top the DPS pressing two buttons.

Basically then a monk will be top DPS by hitting 1 button, auto-attack. Monks don't need any kind of DPS boost to be honest. We have a lot of utility with FD / Sneak / Mend / High Skill Caps / Epic haste buff. Knights are always shafted along with wizards, rangers, and DoT classes (for shame a necro should just twitch raids and a shaman should just torpor / spam heal / buff, same for druid). Would be nice to see some other classes with more raid / group utility. Monks can already tank well in a group and even handle rampage on some mobs.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically then a monk will be top DPS by hitting 1 button, auto-attack. Monks don't need any kind of DPS boost to be honest. We have a lot of utility with FD / Sneak / Mend / High Skill Caps / Epic haste buff. Knights are always shafted along with wizards, rangers, and DoT classes (for shame a necro should just twitch raids and a shaman should just torpor / spam heal / buff, same for druid). Would be nice to see some other classes with more raid / group utility. Monks can already tank well in a group and even handle rampage on some mobs.

I assumed Ed was just trolling with his post about Monks needing a boost. Theyre already the majority of peoples 2nd mains/alts and a good chunk of the populations mains. Not the sort of numbers that suggest a class needs a boost.

[paulgiamatti]

I think that's partially their original reasoning behind it - by that point they'd surely realized monks are typically out there doing the heavy lifting while the rest of the raid/group sits on their butts. That and back then the weight penalty was probably more of a burden, since the economy wasn't broken and Tinker/Dragon bags were much more difficult to obtain.

I don't think the defense increase really means a lot on P99 though, they'll still have shitty aggro even if they're doing more DPS. Warriors will still be tanking endgame raid mobs because of disciplines, etc. Now that everyone is more or less geared out in Velious stuff, taking a beating isn't much to boast about. It will be great for the solo/duo/trio artists.

[Brut]

That or a Verant dev mained a monk and figured "I want 60ac pants with 100hp! Who cares if no other class gets anything that insane, even the tanks?! MONKS CAN BE THE TANKS TOO! AND THE TOP DPS! HECK, MEND SHOULD WORK LIKE LOH!"

I just always think of noob comic and the ranger replaced with monks. Only reason I'd wanna see moon kitties is so the server wont stagnate in this wretched lizard monk master race state.

[EdTuBrutus]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That or a Verant dev mained a monk and figured "I want 60ac pants with 100hp! Who cares if no other class gets anything that insane, even the tanks?! MONKS CAN BE THE TANKS TOO! AND THE TOP DPS! HECK, MEND SHOULD WORK LIKE LOH!"

I just always think of noob comic and the ranger replaced with monks. Only reason I'd wanna see moon kitties is so the server wont stagnate in this wretched lizard monk master race state.

Monks were the best tanks in vanilla. As long as they didn't wear those utterly stupid AC free stat items. It was not a change in Kunark or Velious. The main issue in vanilla was the lack of people who understood that stats were meaningless and AC was all.

IIRC Warriors could not hit 1000AC in vanilla. Monks could.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by EdTuBrutus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks were the best tanks in vanilla. As long as they didn't wear those utterly stupid AC free stat items. It was not a change in Kunark or Velious. The main issue in vanilla was the lack of people who understood that stats were meaningless and AC was all.

For shitting around in Sebilis sure. Youre not about to see monks get put into the tank chain on AoW or ToV though. And if youre not a warrior , HP > all for raiding (after MR)
AoEs dont care about your AC.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only reason I'd wanna see moon kitties is so the server wont stagnate in this wretched lizard monk master race state.

The real problem is that Monks are way too good at pulling due to 3rd person Titanium scroll, sneak (classic seems to be that sneak pulling just does not work, and it certainly shouldn't clear FD memory) and everyone and their brother having Holgresh Elder Beads.

And for the OP: Monk 2H will get a huge boost. Abashi's will be a bit better than Gharns/FoN, the Bo Staff of Trorsmang will be pretty comparable to FoN/Primal, and the Tranquil Staff will be pretty comparable to two Sky fists. So load up on your 2H now!

[Jimjam]

- Spiderling and Spider Silks are now stackable
(Jul 10, 20001)

OMG we been cheating hard!