An idea too settle this whole skill level dispute thing

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Duma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PVP has never been about competition, in any game. It's an excuse, a red herring.

PVP = griefing plain and simple.

This thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with PVP.... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hobby]

I personally feel like my PvP events have gone pretty well... the amount of greifing in terms of corpse camping and shit is fairly non-existant.

But yes, PvP in its most primal way, is indeed a way to grief people. Killing others to steal their loot? Hell yes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



Anyways, posting here to say that I am all for competition on who can kill what boss with the least amount of players.

Id bet Nagafen can be killed with 10 people -- bard for resists, chanter for crack and haste, 3 clerics (2 on tank, 1 on backups / dps) 1 tank 3 dps and 1 backup healer (paladin preferrably for layhands and tanking capabilities just in case).

Will take a little bit to kill, but I bet the clerics would be able to keep their mana up easy enough. But I may be misjudging how fast the mana-regen is :/

[thxer]

I think this is a pretty neat idea. Back on my old server we had a guild called The Pantheon which I always admired, they managed to down big targets and get geared out with some severely minimal numbers.

This might actually be a positive source of competition.

[Goobles]

I vote zone-wide PVP when raid bosses spawn.

[Jenni D]

what a load of egotistical bollocks, sorry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

So after all the guild drama, given the chance to actually show what your guild can do nobody is interested? Wow.

I thought it would have been a lot of fun and something new and different.
I guess some people only play the game for pixel prizes after all.

[Omnimorph]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought it would have been a lot of fun and something new and different.
I guess some people only play the game for pixel prizes after all.

Welcome to classic eq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The whole "do less with more" thing is just what a guild says when they lose a mob to another guild who happens to have more people at the time. None of the kills require skill, and the idea of trying to prove it with less people would be pointless.

Hell, you do this, go back on p99 and say "oh yeah, well we killed CT with 20 people", the guild you're saying that to reply "oh yeah? well when you were killing a CT with no loot on test we camped him on p99 with 50 and got some loot".

Winner = no one.

[Ponden]

Originally Posted by Omnimorph [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Winner = no one.

Guineapig, you can stop trying to solve the problems of P99.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So after all the guild drama, given the chance to actually show what your guild can do nobody is interested? Wow.

If they actually had to put their "money where their mouth was", so to speak, then everyone would know once and for all who the most skilled guild was and then there wouldn't be any drama over it. And we wouldn't want THAT, now... would we?

The fact that the uberguilds aren't biting on this tells me it's a great way to determine which guild is more skilled once you take 'having to put up zerg forces to compete/poopsock against the competition' out of the equation. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Loke]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that the uberguilds aren't biting on this tells me it's a great way to determine which guild is more skilled once you take 'having to put up zerg forces to compete/poopsock against the competition' out of the equation. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean the fact that the uber guilds aren't getting a test server set up to have a competition like this? I agree with whoever said that if something like this were set up, most guilds would partake. I would imagine the majority of people in IB and DA don't really even care about the loot anymore as much as getting the kill. I haven't gotten an upgrade in months and there is really only like 1 item that is an upgrade until Kunark. I know a lot of people in both guilds are in the same position as I am.