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Old 12-08-2016, 05:59 PM
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I have a theory that reincarnation is a legit thing, though not necessarily in the same way it's traditionally viewed.

See, energy cannot be created or destroyed, but the amount of energy in the universe IS finite. This holds true for all energy, including souls. I believe that most people today are essentially NPCs, because the number of people greatly outweighs the number of souls available. While some people are born with souls, most are not simply because there aren't enough to go around. This explains a lot. From the grossly successful people who have risen the ranks by any degenerate means necessary (they have the compulsion for success but not the soul to act as a governor of their actions) to the fat girls who dress like they weigh 115 and think they're sexy. These people lack souls and are thus lacking self awareness. Hollow if you will.

Ancient civilizations were somehow able to figure out the gist of things like the big bang, quite possibly because early on some souls were reincarnated retaining knowledge of past lives. Following this logic, it's entirely possible for whomever was responsible for the georgia guide stones to have some sort of insider knowledge of how many souls there are available. Perhaps 500,000,000 is in the neighborhood of how many souls are available.

Every culture has had some belief regarding reincarnation, or at least the soul living on after the physical body dies. The viking soul went to one of several ethereal planes depending on how the soul lived (and died) in the physical world. Native americans believed the soul returned to nature with the body. Buddhists believe the soul takes up another body upon death to come back and learn another lesson. It's important to not deny or ignore that which cannot be quantified by trendy current science, and to remember that not all ancient knowledge is the result of drug use or primitive rationalization. Our ancestors knew some stuff that they had no right knowing by today's standards. What are your thoughts on reincarnation?
would it matter?

consciousness absolutely does not reincarnate.

sorry to burst everyones bubble, the reincarnation stuff is purely symbolic. you do reincarnate, energy stays but your consciousness is forever dead.

you are your consciousness no matter what LSD and DMT told you, deal with it big boy
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:39 PM
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would it matter?

consciousness absolutely does not reincarnate.

sorry to burst everyones bubble, the reincarnation stuff is purely symbolic. you do reincarnate, energy stays but your consciousness is forever dead.

you are your consciousness no matter what LSD and DMT told you, deal with it big boy
We definitely incur ego loss. But, your argument that this is the same as an obviation of consciousness is off the mark. Consciousness, if you are speaking of it in the 'survival of self' sense or ego is impacted by the experiences of former generations. Transgenerational imprints my friend. From a biological perspective, our peak experiences (and more importantly, the meaning we forge in the context of our own life) turn on and off epigenetic markers. Epigenetic markers tell your system what parts of the DNA it should be using.

This can cause states of general anxiety, malourishment, and willingness to take risks for long term rewards. There are other things. I researched it deeply last year so I have forgotten many specifics.

I know this is all exacting but it is proof that our lives have an impact on the lives of the future.

Another time I'd be happy to consider the possibility of mass consciousness with you. There are ways (more obvious than you'd think) to elevate yourself into a mass conscious awareness.
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:41 PM
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Interesting take with the young soul theory, but I believe all energy that will ever be has already been created. The only way for this to happen is if energy in one form is somewhere being converted into spiritual energy.
Please understand Brother Angushjalmur that spirits come from the infinite spirit skies and are simply bound to our bodies like confused children at boarding school. There is only an ebb and flow of the spiritual energy into the material round, not a creation/destruction.
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:47 PM
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skarlorn u trollin? consciousness it brain-deep. the only way that the energy is transferred is when plants use ur body parts as soil. when u stop feeding the engine that is your brain with bodily needs, it ends
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:56 PM
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Who are your people btw? I know of a few cultures who believe that traits of recently dead relatives are passed on to children born shortly after their physical death.
Yupik, we're coastal Eskimos in my family. We all get names when you are born, after someone who passed on before you. Like I got my great grandma's name, who she got from one before her so and so forth as long as we've had that naming convention -- who knows we might even have brought it here with us to Alaska.

I'll add more to this when I get home since it looks like people are having a serious discussion here.
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:57 PM
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skarlorn u trollin? consciousness it brain-deep. the only way that the energy is transferred is when plants use ur body parts as soil. when u stop feeding the engine that is your brain with bodily needs, it ends

Again, seems like you have a different understanding of consciousness than me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:28 PM
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We definitely incur ego loss. But, your argument that this is the same as an obviation of consciousness is off the mark. Consciousness, if you are speaking of it in the 'survival of self' sense or ego is impacted by the experiences of former generations. Transgenerational imprints my friend. From a biological perspective, our peak experiences (and more importantly, the meaning we forge in the context of our own life) turn on and off epigenetic markers. Epigenetic markers tell your system what parts of the DNA it should be using.

This can cause states of general anxiety, malourishment, and willingness to take risks for long term rewards. There are other things. I researched it deeply last year so I have forgotten many specifics.

I know this is all exacting but it is proof that our lives have an impact on the lives of the future.

Another time I'd be happy to consider the possibility of mass consciousness with you. There are ways (more obvious than you'd think) to elevate yourself into a mass conscious awareness.
*sniff sniff* smells like DMT bullshit.

I think abstract concepts and variations of consciousness don't change the fact that you are your brain. obviously this is difficult for some people to swallow so they make up transcendental states of being and theories of mass consciousness networks via DMT and bro-science theories on ego loss with joe rogan.

yeah red pill/blue pill. seems ur stayin the matricks eating steak
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never done DMT, never will.

There are spiritual practices that you can do. I won't argue for them. Peace be with you brother [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Nope, never done DMT, never will. I guess we are on different pages (ur a man trapped in opiate addiction after all) and so I bid you a swift and desolate voyage into the starry skies of Death dear friend.
tbh I didn't even read your post sorry for any confusion.

will read later during a star aligning mood-shift and suddenly we will connect again as colleagues
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i edited my post cause i felt bad about it ttyl
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