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Old 11-18-2016, 09:44 AM
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With 6k, I would fill up a bag of tools not so much only weapons..

1k - Locustlure (slow proc + best 1-10 rogue weapon in the game imo)
1k - Bloodpoint (lifetap +5 str)
1500 - Small Dragonbone Shard (your 13 dmg mainhand 10+)
2500 - Velium Swiftblade (36% haste..crappy offhand stats, but cheapest 36% haste you can get)

I am not a statistician or anything. But the "eye test", the way I felt my rogue played 20+ with the swiftblade offhand / small dragonbone shard was more DPS than anything I could put in offhand for damage..

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Old 11-18-2016, 11:04 AM
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With 6k, I would fill up a bag of tools not so much only weapons..

1k - Locustlure (slow proc + best 1-10 rogue weapon in the game imo)
1k - Bloodpoint (lifetap +5 str)
1500 - Small Dragonbone Shard (your 13 dmg mainhand 10+)
2500 - Velium Swiftblade (36% haste..crappy offhand stats, but cheapest 36% haste you can get)

I am not a statistician or anything. But the "eye test", the way I felt my rogue played 20+ with the swiftblade offhand / small dragonbone shard was more DPS than anything I could put in offhand for damage..

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I thought about this too, glad you brought it up. I wondered if the swiftblade in offhand with the big haste boost would be better with a small dragonbone shard in mainhand, or if schw with small dragonbone shard with other higher ratio weapon in offhand would be better?
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Old 11-18-2016, 11:35 AM
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At the earlier levels the offhand is very unreliable for generating swings.

In general I find once you reach 150 dw/da skill you want to put a dps weapon in there, but before then use it to pad stats/haste or have a utility proc (don't need a successful da check for a proc to happen).

For a rogue I guess the haste might be a decent path at lower levels (if you have it).
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Old 11-18-2016, 11:37 AM
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At the earlier levels the offhand is very unreliable for generating swings.

In general I find once you reach 150 dw/da skill you want to put a dps weapon in there, but before then use it to pad stats/haste or have a utility proc (don't need a successful da check for a proc to happen).

For a rogue I guess the haste might be a decent path at lower levels (if you have it).
Ok great advice thanks.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:28 PM
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:14 PM
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I'd say get a Seb dirk and whatever in offhand. The only issue I can think of is that the dirk so quick you may end up tanking without a hybrid. If you can manage to hold out, the Seb dirk is the best bang for buck offhand to go with epic in game.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:38 AM
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I'd say get a Seb dirk and whatever in offhand. The only issue I can think of is that the dirk so quick you may end up tanking without a hybrid. If you can manage to hold out, the Seb dirk is the best bang for buck offhand to go with epic in game.
Ok thanks, will work on getting one later on. Atm I got vellum swiftblade with a frozen shard. I will probably end up getting schw if I ditch the vellum swiftblade. Not rich enough to buy higher end haste. My rogue is 16 now, so it will be awhile before I need better I think.
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Old 11-21-2016, 03:30 AM
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actual good advice from someone who isn't a fucking retard:

main hand 1-2k: any 13dmg main hand. dragonbone shard, crystaline spear etc. delay does not matter. stats do not matter. the only thing that matters in 6 man groups is your backstab damage. fights below 50 do not last long enough for auto attack damage to have any meaningful impact. i don't know blue prices but thats my guess

off hand ??k: whatever cheap garbage. your off hand won't do anything until higher levels. if you hit level 50+ and don't at least have a css by then, buy a seb dirk or something. below 50 your offhand dps will have no meaningful impact considering the short length of encounters. i don't know blue prices, just go to the wiki and find something with a good ratio and no proc in your price range.

don't waste plat on proc gimmicks, avatar and slow are cool to have but don't worry about +5 str

the rest: save up for epic MQ
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Old 11-21-2016, 02:54 PM
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actual good advice from someone who isn't a fucking retard:

main hand 1-2k: any 13dmg main hand. dragonbone shard, crystaline spear etc. delay does not matter. stats do not matter. the only thing that matters in 6 man groups is your backstab damage. fights below 50 do not last long enough for auto attack damage to have any meaningful impact. i don't know blue prices but thats my guess

off hand ??k: whatever cheap garbage. your off hand won't do anything until higher levels. if you hit level 50+ and don't at least have a css by then, buy a seb dirk or something. below 50 your offhand dps will have no meaningful impact considering the short length of encounters. i don't know blue prices, just go to the wiki and find something with a good ratio and no proc in your price range.

don't waste plat on proc gimmicks, avatar and slow are cool to have but don't worry about +5 str

the rest: save up for epic MQ
That's kind of what i ended up doing, velium swiftblade in offhand (awful offhand damage) but gives 36% haste and frozen shard for the 13 damage BS.
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Old 11-21-2016, 03:33 PM
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