Question regarding camp rules

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by john_savage1982 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

look at the poopsockers. most of them aren't there most of the time. if they aren't there when the mob spawns they risk losing it. i say say idea for other camps.

Boss spawns are on a random timer within a window, so going afk for 8 hours during the window is a risk. If you see hadden killed at 12pm, you can go afk until 5:59pm without any risk of missing the spawn.

John also brings up not watching shout/ooc channels. I would say you should only be worried about tells since it can be easy to tune out those channels.

Thanks Uthgaard for clearing this up. I'm bookmarking this until it gets added to the camp rules...preferably with a definition of what a 'reasonable time' to respond to tells would be.

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by john_savage1982 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if hadden is there and he isn't being killed is one thing, going afk for most of the spawn time and returning 20 minutes before to make sure you weren't off in your calculation insuring you can attack as soon as he spawns is another.

i don't really care if people aren't there. look at the poopsockers. most of them aren't there most of the time. if they aren't there when the mob spawns they risk losing it. i say say idea for other camps.

I would say this falls under the "respond in a reasonable amount of time" window.

If the spawn won't be up for two hours and you're there but not responding to my tells, I wouldn't just assume the camp is now mine. I may sit there with you if I want the camp bad enough, but I would keep trying to get a response from you before making a move of my own.

If the spawn is ten minutes away and you aren't responding to tells, it's getting a little gray, but I'd give you the benefit of the doubt when it spawns and give you a chance to engage first since you were clearly there before me.

If the mob pops and you aren't responding to tells: too bad for you.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the spawn won't be up for two hours and you're there but not responding to my tells, I wouldn't just assume the camp is now mine. I may sit there with you if I want the camp bad enough, but I would keep trying to get a response from you before making a move of my own.

If the spawn is ten minutes away and you aren't responding to tells, it's getting a little gray, but I'd give you the benefit of the doubt when it spawns and give you a chance to engage first since you were clearly there before me.

If the mob pops and you aren't responding to tells: too bad for you.

This doesn't really solve the issue, and I don't think it's in the spirit of the rule that Uthgaard stated. It would still allow for people to park their character in the morning, leave their house for 7 hours and 55 minutes, and then show up for the spawn.

If I get to a spawn 4 hours early and try for an hour to get you to respond to tells, and then you finally respond 2 hours later, I would argue that you weren't maintaining a presence at the camp and lost your right to it. However if the server rules stated something more specific I'd happily abide by them...this is just what I interpret to be fair.

Responding to tells every 20-30 minutes isn't too ridiculous of an obligation at these types of camps, especially given that most camps force you to some kind of action every 20-30 minutes to keep the camp held.

[freakyuno]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the mob pops and you aren't responding to tells: too bad for you.

I'd agree with a little amendment, if the mob pops, and you aren't responding to tells, and not engaging the mob: to bad for you.

[Odeseus]

Responding within 20-30 minutes seems right to me. I wouldn't think you should have to respond to EVERY tell RIGHT away or risk losing the camp, particularly ishva since the spawn time is so long and since you dont *have* to kill anything at all. Nor should you always need to respond to OOC or shout (although it'd be nice). However, responding to tells is kind of a must.

Or if you want to use the ishva as the example: simply keep the single spawn in the room clear. It spawns every 25ish minutes or something like that. And that would let everyone know 2 things, a) that you have the firepower to probably take out ishva when it pops and b) that you are there at least once every 25ish mins. Done, no need to respond to tells or anything else. Your actions tell all that anyone would need to know.

The issue appears settled to me.