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Old 11-07-2016, 02:19 PM
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Maybe a non primal rogue.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:25 PM
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Well, if we're talking sheer resourcefulness, a ranger could always proc a primal before/during a raid fight too.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:33 PM
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Preprocing Primal is a given for anything I've said.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:45 PM
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I mean...i think the best answer here is "it depends." If you're talking about DPS in leveling groups, rangers probably gonna win...unless the warrior is in awakened and won DKP loot rights to vulak loot or something for their 46 lvl alt. 95% or more of people who roll warriors on this server will never attain the items required for them to consistently out DPS competently geared rangers (cloak of the sky, ranger epic, SBoZ all pretty easily attainable IMO.)

If you're talking DPS on raid mobs, then it's also probably "it depends," but as the gear gets better the balance starts to weigh more heavily for warriors.
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Old 11-07-2016, 04:49 PM
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Lol - yes, yes I have. A bfg ranger does 112 dps to vindi. A berserk precision warrior does 136 dps. A good rogue is 120. Just as example. It's you who haven't seen a competent dps war with a Gaudralek.
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paul think you've been out of the game too long. No ranger is showing up on charts. Not 1.

As Naethyn states, raid mobs die due to:

Damage shield
Charm pets
Rogues
Random insane berserk warriors
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:37 PM
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Nah, there are just very few rangers who are crazy enough to blow ~500 plat every fight on 8 dmg arrows, plus the annoyance of refletching them. Even just summoning enough with Tolan's Bracer for each fight is too much to ask a lot of the time.

And besides, raid fights are just edge cases. Raiding on P99 is for assholes and masochists. I'm talking about grouping.
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:44 PM
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Warrior is better group damage.
Reason: warriors get more groups!
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:01 PM
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It's true - but the thing is, in my 6 or so years on the server I don't think I've ever seen someone say, "Let's get that warrior, we need some DPS!" I mean, I'm not saying they're bad DPS in groups, but warriors get groups cause people want a tank. And it's funny because with Velious gear rangers make amazing tanks with the best snap aggro in the game - not to mention basically everything a ranger does is an aggro magnet, so not having to mitigate that as a tank increases DPS output a shitton. I often find myself switching spots with the warrior and letting the warrior do zerker DPS.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:33 PM
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I often find myself switching spots with the warrior and letting the warrior do zerker DPS.
^ This is how to do it ^^Ranger good dps and SOLID aggro.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:47 PM
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Nah, there are just very few rangers who are crazy enough to blow ~500 plat every fight on 8 dmg arrows, plus the annoyance of refletching them. Even just summoning enough with Tolan's Bracer for each fight is too much to ask a lot of the time.

And besides, raid fights are just edge cases. Raiding on P99 is for assholes and masochists. I'm talking about grouping.
BFG 8 DMG arrow rangers are on par with end game kunark rogues. It's a nice trick for 1 raid boos per while.
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