Raid guild that doesnt require vent - Page 3

Scratch&Sniff · #21 01-17-2011, 10:50 PM

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dozekar use vent?

nope

Mardur · #22 01-17-2011, 10:59 PM

Sure any guild can do "fine" without voice chat, and some do such as Darkwind. But P99 is more cutthroat than any live server was. Voice chat unarguably gives a huge advantage.

Alkorin · #23 01-18-2011, 01:00 AM

The number of assumptions made in this thread is staggering.

Did it ever occur to you guys that someone who lives every day of their life with a disability might not want to use that as a crutch all the time, and might, in fact, be looking to escape from it? Perhaps this person had no interest in explaining his situation simply because in this game, it shouldn't matter?

Honestly, stop with the judging already.

Nivar Quartz · #24 01-18-2011, 01:22 AM

Dozekar has vent, but its not required, and raids are lead the old fashion way. If some others ( see above ) believe they have an advantage by requiring, more power to you.

Dozekar is listed in guild section of the forums, with websight and who to contact if ur interested.

Mardur · #25 01-18-2011, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Alkorin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The number of assumptions made in this thread is staggering.

Did it ever occur to you guys that someone who lives every day of their life with a disability might not want to use that as a crutch all the time, and might, in fact, be looking to escape from it? Perhaps this person had no interest in explaining his situation simply because in this game, it shouldn't matter?

Honestly, stop with the judging already.

I'm just putting myself in the shoes of whoever removed the deaf dude. If someone sent me a tell saying "I refuse to join vent during raids" I'd say sorry buddy, it's a requirement to be in my guild. However, if the guy said "I'd really love to be able to participate in vent, but I'm deaf" I'd definitely be arranging provisions for the guy so that he could be effective on raids while not participating in voice chat. It's called communicating information, not using a disability as a crutch.

fastboy21 · #26 01-18-2011, 01:35 AM

vent's usefulness in raiding for eq is very over-rated.

more often than not, at least in my opinion, voice chat is actually MORE confusing than giving simple text directions. vent isn't super high quality, there are background noises, language accents, people who can't shut up, etc...

to me, a few hours each night of that is FAR more wearing than old school chat communication.

there are times when it is useful...and I'm sure there are plenty of folks who for legit reasons are more comfortable with audible communication, but i think it is still way over-used.

nalkin · #27 01-18-2011, 02:11 AM

mumble > vent

Nebichan · #28 01-18-2011, 03:34 AM

The problem was lack of information. How is someone supposed to tell the difference between people that refuse to get on vent (like their speakers are "broken" for a month now, hasn't gotten around to get vent to work or "I'm hanging out in another guy's vent atm") and someone who is actually unable to? I'm not saying "announce to the entire guild" that you are deaf. Contact the GL or an officer - they will understand - not judge - not smear this info on every wall - and things can be worked around. Don't judge people for not "accepting deaf people" when no mention of this was ever made.

Instructions are given on vent - especially during spammy times (lots of heal spam) or to get a specific pet off a mob. Saying when you crashed or where you died - saying "dont heal me" when a big train is about to whack you.

Curmudgen · #29 01-18-2011, 09:11 AM

I guess like all the "wives" and "girlfriends" needing IP exemptions that there will be a new wave of deaf folks that can't use vent.

Good thing too. Someone explain to me how someone bitching endlessly about the purity of classic eq can turn around and use vent.

Pycoba_rng · #30 01-18-2011, 09:23 AM

I've led over 40 + raids on P99 , at least 20 + were public ones if that. Yes they were on another character. All the raids I led on P99 had no vent involved at all. If I could lead public raids without vent sucessfully. Then it goes to show vent is only as good as you make it. Vent is also great if your a leader that can't type worth a damn. Do I think vent is useful? Yes absolutely... As far as it being better , it really depends on the players. I'm oldschool and i like doing things the old fashion way so I choose not to use it.