The legality of vigilantism is fundamentally flawed

[Daywolf]

Well, I sorta like the 5th amendment and that it provides "due process of law".
You can always become a bounty hunter though, within the due process of the law of course.

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I sorta like the 5th amendment and that it provides "due process of law".
You can always become a bounty hunter though, within the due process of the law of course.

Catch and release (into custody) only perpetuates the issues we face as a society.

Let's use Detroit as an example.

They get double digit shootings and more crime than their police can even respond to every week. A good amount of it is being caused by the same people over and over. They get arrested for this or that, bail out, keep doing it, go to court and maybe get prison time. Then they get out and do the same shit again.

Why not let the people handle it? If someone is bringing crime to your neighborhood, it should be your duty to get rid of that person the same way being a citizen obligates you to defend your country from foreign invaders.

You shouldn't shit where you eat, and you shouldn't allow others to shit where you eat either.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's use Detroit as an example.

The City was/is still not able to provide basic services. Communities stricken with conflict elected to band together and police themselves, shift services, and prospered at a great rate.... it's more an example of strength through necessity as toward your OP than it is against it ... but that's just like, my opinion, man.

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by entruil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The City was/is still not able to provide basic services. Communities stricken with conflict elected to band together and police themselves, shift services, and prospered at a great rate.... it's more an example of strength through necessity as toward your OP than it is against it ... but that's just like, my opinion, man.

It got that way because of the criminals who the overly liberal government there lets roam free.

[maskedmelon]

We just need to kill people who commit crime. Eventually we will have no crime.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still waiting for a response.

Anyone can step up. Should there not be reduced sentences for acts of vigilantism?

Isn't that precisely what Crime of Passion is?

Now to the premeditated side of things;

It's too easy to be clouded by Delusions or other Neurosis.

Having an even playing field for everyone and an objective ?moderator? to determine "Harm" and also ensuring "Just Punishment" is paramount.

The problem with overbloated oppressive governments is the same as with vigilantism(?), crimes are still there except the ones enforcing the laws become the criminals.

Having the same "Judge,Jury, and Executioner" rarely ends well for anyone except the Powerful.

(Kinda ranted and repeated some stuff)...

So on premeditated side of things i would argue we need Tougher Sentences.

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We just need to kill people who commit crime. Eventually we will have no crime.

hehehe i feel like i'm running in circles now

[aMindAmok]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We just need to kill people who commit crime. Eventually we will have no crime.

... or people.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We just need to kill people who commit crime. Eventually we will have no crime.

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Mine fits kind of snug. It hurts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] . Does Olaf take returns?

But It did make me a little bit taller girls notice me now.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Catch and release (into custody) only perpetuates the issues we face as a society.

Let's use Detroit as an example.

They get double digit shootings and more crime than their police can even respond to every week. A good amount of it is being caused by the same people over and over. They get arrested for this or that, bail out, keep doing it, go to court and maybe get prison time. Then they get out and do the same shit again.

Why not let the people handle it? If someone is bringing crime to your neighborhood, it should be your duty to get rid of that person the same way being a citizen obligates you to defend your country from foreign invaders.

You shouldn't shit where you eat, and you shouldn't allow others to shit where you eat either.

Well heck, that's why I moved out of LA 30 years ago, let it burn. I can't say I never looked back, I was visiting a friend for his birthday when the big riots broke out, was crazy stuff being in lock-down and all the radio buzz (I keep a scanner with me in my vehicle). But yeah, screw the cities, especially liberal controlled ones... which are most.

But where I live now, I appreciate due process of the law. Not much goes on around here, but when it does, it's taken care of. If there were no due process of the law, then that could be a problem here. To fix city problems by degrading the good of where I live is not my idea of a solid solution. Yeah ain't no mob coming out here, we does open a can o whipass and they knows it hehe.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Catch and release (into custody) only perpetuates the issues we face as a society.

Let's use Detroit as an example.

They get double digit shootings and more crime than their police can even respond to every week. A good amount of it is being caused by the same people over and over. They get arrested for this or that, bail out, keep doing it, go to court and maybe get prison time. Then they get out and do the same shit again.

Why not let the people handle it? If someone is bringing crime to your neighborhood, it should be your duty to get rid of that person the same way being a citizen obligates you to defend your country from foreign invaders.

You shouldn't shit where you eat, and you shouldn't allow others to shit where you eat either.

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