Nice move Shillary...

[Ahldagor]

Here we go again with the Hitler, Holocaust, and word mincing there of. Argue it all you want, it happened, Hitler was so high on meth he didn't even second guess killing his dog, some samurai suicide bullshit show of strength. Take the execution with a smile, you can't imagine Nuremberg if he were on trial.

[JurisDictum]

There are few metrics you could look at and say Hitler was "good at being leader" if you will. He truly was brilliant at military strategy. He kinds of went nuts toward the end though in this regard.

He was also a great propagandist and knew how to consolidate power better than most would. He was so good he even convinced himself.

But in the end I think Germany would have been a lot better off if they did not go fascist. In fact, going full blown communist might have panned out a lot better.

[AzzarTheGod]

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1938 Man of the Year for a reason.

Nuff said really.

ITT: zogbots proclaim stuff they were spoonfed in highschool while wearing a baby-bib.

[R Flair]

if you have to worship a villain to feel "woke" then its sad

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are few metrics you could look at and say Hitler was "good at being leader" if you will. He truly was brilliant at military strategy. He kinds of went nuts toward the end though in this regard.

He was also a great propagandist and knew how to consolidate power better than most would. He was so good he even convinced himself.

But in the end I think Germany would have been a lot better off if they did not go fascist. In fact, going full blown communist might have panned out a lot better.

Umm half of Germany went full blown communist for 40+ years and it was one of the most culturally destructive events in recent history.

He was a good leader because he focused on his country and its people. He kicked out the (((double agents))) from their positions and ended their usurious laws. He attempted to practice positive eugenics among his people and establish an autarky to avoid international conflicts and financial entanglements. The myth of Nazi dreams of world domination are completely overblown and had they not held off the communist as long as they had the rest of Europe and possibly the UK would have undergone the same horrific communist occupation in which millions were starved and purged.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Umm half of Germany went full blown communist for 40+ years and it was one of the most culturally destructive events in recent history.

He was a good leader because he focused on his country and its people. He kicked out the (((double agents))) from their positions and ended their usurious laws. He attempted to practice positive eugenics among his people and establish an autarky to avoid international conflicts and financial entanglements. The myth of Nazi dreams of world domination are completely overblown and had they not held off the communist as long as they had the rest of Europe and possibly the UK would have undergone the same horrific communist occupation in which millions were starved and purged.

Well the key part of that is "half" of Germany. It was imposed by an outside leader and not their own. They would have needed their own Stalin. They needed to be united. Not divided up among the war victors and then puppeted.

This is all going by the assumption that you don't give a fuck about human cost. How ever you cut it, Hilter killed lots of people to impose his vision (like Stalin). Not to mention the sense of liberty was very limited.

[AzzarTheGod]

Great point about the Red Tide, santa.

[entruil]

Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

never read the book, im sure i disagree with some stuff, what step are we on?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Umm half of Germany went full blown communist for 40+ years and it was one of the most culturally destructive events in recent history.

He was a good leader because he focused on his country and its people. He kicked out the (((double agents))) from their positions and ended their usurious laws. He attempted to practice positive eugenics among his people and establish an autarky to avoid international conflicts and financial entanglements. The myth of Nazi dreams of world domination are completely overblown and had they not held off the communist as long as they had the rest of Europe and possibly the UK would have undergone the same horrific communist occupation in which millions were starved and purged.

The dude felt Germany was the heir to the Roman empire. He was going for world domination, governance. The Danzig region in Poland was the proverbial straw since appeasement had been the policy due to his claim of cultural separation due to the Versaille treaty, but Poland was all around the Danzig region; so in order to appease, land had to be given up by Poland who basically said fuck that you signed the treaty since you lost the great war and were punished for being the aggressor, Prussia. Poland and Prussia have had their differences in the past no doubt.

Goebbels was phenonlmenal at his job and so were the civic engineers. Can't deny that. He put people to work and gave them a feeling of worth then dissolved the workers party into the mitary along with everything else. All legaly too, some damn good lawyering (especially how Goebbels consolidated the film industry through state operated financing).

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The dude felt Germany was the heir to the Roman empire. He was going for world domination, governance. The Danzig region in Poland was the proverbial straw since appeasement had been the policy due to his claim of cultural separation due to the Versaille treaty, but Poland was all around the Danzig region; so in order to appease, land had to be given up by Poland who basically said fuck that you signed the treaty since you lost the great war and were punished for being the aggressor, Prussia. Poland and Prussia have had their differences in the past no doubt.

Goebbels was phenonlmenal at his job and so were the civic engineers. Can't deny that. He put people to work and gave them a feeling of worth then dissolved the workers party into the mitary along with everything else. All legaly too, some damn good lawyering (especially how Goebbels consolidated the film industry through state operated financing).

He sent in commandos to rescue Mussolini which shows he hardly wanted to invade or conquer Italy. He made 9 different attempts at peace with the UK. He had treaties with Japan and the Ottomans. He had only broke the pact with the Soviets because Stalin was mobilizing a million men along the eastern border.

The whole Roman empire thing is esoteric and historic but hardly proves he wanted to rule the world.

Goebbels did a great job of destroying the propaganda coming from the UK and the Soviets. The film industry was still pretty new and people were only then figuring out the power of that medium.

You should listen to some of Hitler or Goebbels speeches. They are pretty prophetic.