Which class when played with skill affects your group the most?

[Sorn]

Bard!

Have grouped with a bard who saved everyone with quick thinking when the AFK necro's pet was about to push a spider off the edge in the frenzy camp in Velks by charming the spider. I'm sure you can imagine the train that would have resulted if he hadn't done that.

[Cecily]

I don't like this thread. A more fun thread would be which class played poorly hurts the group the most.

EQ is a synergy game. Give me a buffed up, attentive rogue any day. Then give me another. Then give me a warrior who doesn't alt-tab autoattack during fights. Then give me a healer who knows how to CC, a decent puller, and a dedicated CC class.

None of those people are pulling more weight than the others. Any of those people not doing their job makes the group suffer.

[koros]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All i will say is that there is a reason Bards are the pariahs of P99, and thats because even the best played Bard does not serve a core role. Granted a lot of this is because of the old XP penalty.

Any class played really well shines - However I tend to think in terms of level 50+ grouping. So with that in mind, Bards have sh!ty DPS, sh!ty CC, sh!ty regen (although it stacks), sh!ty haste, and sh!ty slows. They literally excel at nothing. Bards only shine when the group is already put together very well and they can "grease the wheel" with situational usefulness.

I have a level 55 Bard also and I love playing him, but they are a poor mans Enchanter at best and a bad Monk at worst

Source: 55+ Monk/Necro/Bard here

Well played bard is probably kiting 6 mobs while the group picks them off 1 by 1, playing mana song, using a temp charmed mob to fight another mob (so reducing 2 mobs hp at once), and dotting stuff down. They're a bit more than a poor mans enchanter.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well played bard is probably kiting 6 mobs while the group picks them off 1 by 1, playing mana song, using a temp charmed mob to fight another mob (so reducing 2 mobs hp at once), and dotting stuff down. They're a bit more than a poor mans enchanter.

Yeah, personally I prefer chasing mobs around rather than fighting stationary ones. It makes me feel like I am good at something as I watch the other melee continue to fall out of range.

#mezisoverrated #whoneedsahealer

[pogs4ever]

Bard. Honorable mention to pally in an xp group.


enc are like pet cats: badass on their own and 99% of the time they don't need you; they may just share their OP with your group from time to time for their own amusement/braggadocio.

Worst played per cecily:
AFk clerics
Lute holding bards
Warriors with dps weapons

[Pheer]

Definitely bard.

In fact I feel like few people on this server have even gotten to experience grouping in a dungeon like seb or HS with a bard played to its maximum potential. Ive been in raid guilds on this server since it opened and even I have only gotten to group with an insanely good group bard a handful of times. I watched one chain pull seb better than any monk.

[Gumbo]

I've noticed this problem and maybe it's just the Bards that I have been in a group with but they will start with playing songs and buffing/healing people. But within five minutes, they just want to be a tank and jump into combat and stop playing songs. Then they complain when people complain about not having haste or any buffs.

[skarlorn]

Yesterday I was camping guk spiders, just about to break the giant spider, and a red con bard ran in and sniped it. Not technically illegal I guess, but fuck bards

[Nixtar]

Shame 99% of the bards on p99 swarm and then fail hard in groups. But yes, theoretically, a bard can have a massive impact.

[Izmael]

If there's one open spot in my group doing a high level dungeon and we have a good enc and an equally good bard both applying for the spot, I'd personally pick enc pretty much every single time, but maybe that's just me.