Aridale <Venerate> Is AWFUL

[Nitsude]

Originally Posted by hookthem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I have video of him sitting in front of me when i tell him there is a list. The whole deal is that I talked to him and told him there was a waitlist and that I was claiming the camp!

I have specific evidence that says I am camping the spawn and outlined everyone that was waiting in line. He told me that he didn't care and that I should /petition it.

From my understanding of what happened, you lost the camp from dying. No one on the list was there to take your spot, leaving the camp open for someone else to claim. It sucks to lose the camp, but trashing another guild because of your mistake is pretty lame.

Also: Join Date: Aug 2014 -- you should know better.

[Lunababy]

Originally Posted by hookthem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this situation, the culprit knew that there was a huge list waiting for a spawn, yet he/she assumed that it was his/hers for the taking. And, he/she didn't even ask the person that he/she KNEW was already camping the spawn

Sounds like the original camper and everybody on "the wait list" weren't even actually at the camp.

many luls

[Hailto]

I feel for you, but honestly if you died and left the camp open, and no one else on the list was there to claim it, he did nothing wrong. Someone is not obligated to let you reclaim a camp if you die, although it may be common courtesy.

[Teako]

Lists are completely player made, can be fabricated, faked, and are generally unreliable.. GMs will not enforce a "list" in such a manner.

Additionally, you abandoned the camp the instant you were not at it for any reason. (Gate, Corpse, Died, Selling, Helping someone at seafuries) - If you are not maintaining a presence at the camp the entire time of the camp it is not yours.

It also appears that they caught placeholders up - which means you failed to kill an outdoor roaming monster immediately on spawning - which means you weren't camping it as well.

In order to camp an outdoor roaming monster you must be standing on it's spawn and able to engage immediately on spawn with represented force. Meaning, the necessary players to kill the targetted monster must be present at the spawn the entire time you claim to be camping it.

The guy who took the camp from you was 100% in the right to do so. Wait lists are complete bullshit and generally just a player courtesy.. They are in no way size shape or form mandatory or "law" - The only thing that matters is the person sitting on the spawn to kill it the instant it appears... Which was not you, nor was it anyone on your made up list.

Sorry buddy, sucks that you lost the camp, but the person who took it was absolutely right to do so, and you posting on the forums crying about it will only hurt your case publicly.. So far as GM interaction goes, GMs aren't going to punish a guy who showed up to an empty camp with PH up and started killing it. You cannot claim something you are not at, or cannot kill with what you have at it. At that point, the first person(s) to engage the PH and kill it have the camp.


Tl;dr - Not your camp Necro. When you died, it went FFA until Aridale claimed it by killing the PH.

[Crashking]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lists are completely player made, can be fabricated, faked, and are generally unreliable.. GMs will not enforce a "list" in such a manner.

Additionally, you abandoned the camp the instant you were not at it for any reason. (Gate, Corpse, Died, Selling, Helping someone at seafuries) - If you are not maintaining a presence at the camp the entire time of the camp it is not yours.

It also appears that they caught placeholders up - which means you failed to kill an outdoor roaming monster immediately on spawning - which means you weren't camping it as well.

In order to camp an outdoor roaming monster you must be standing on it's spawn and able to engage immediately on spawn with represented force. Meaning, the necessary players to kill the targetted monster must be present at the spawn the entire time you claim to be camping it.

The guy who took the camp from you was 100% in the right to do so. Wait lists are complete bullshit and generally just a player courtesy.. They are in no way size shape or form mandatory or "law" - The only thing that matters is the person sitting on the spawn to kill it the instant it appears... Which was not you, nor was it anyone on your made up list.

Sorry buddy, sucks that you lost the camp, but the person who took it was absolutely right to do so, and you posting on the forums crying about it will only hurt your case publicly.. So far as GM interaction goes, GMs aren't going to punish a guy who showed up to an empty camp with PH up and started killing it. You cannot claim something you are not at, or cannot kill with what you have at it. At that point, the first person(s) to engage the PH and kill it have the camp.


Tl;dr - Not your camp Necro. When you died, it went FFA until Aridale claimed it by killing the PH.

Your a bit mistaken in your post - you can leave an area and still have rights to the camp - it has been done in places. I know a zone where it is common to run to a merchant. The key here is getting back to kill the next set of mobs. The real lesson here though is server rules don't really support solo play.

In regards to the original post, sounds like you died and as such without someone there to hold the camp -- Its OPEN for grabs, as stated before waitlist doesn't hold water. Interesting to see that Secondtonone is still farming AC. When I was there to get my AC ring - he had a pile of bodies lying underwater with rings stashed away on them from what I heard and then saw since he had killed AC before I got a turn.

[Secondtonone1]

Yes Crashking I did have corpses nearby. If you understood corpsing you would know not all of those corpses had AC rings on them. Some were corpsed to save rapiers that are temp and will fade after being logged for 20 - 30 mins. If you checked the timers on the corpses and they all happened to be on the same day it was because I recorpse my rapiers and rings all at the same time prior to them rotting at the 7 day mark.

If you are suggesting that I kept the camp after I got an AC ring then you are totally wrong. I follow the list and wait my turn just as everybody should. In the event the camp holder chooses not to use a list and I want to camp the AC I wait at the camp until my turn comes up.

If I was going to try to discredit someone on this forum I would make sure I knew the facts and at the very least I would know what I was talking about. So, good luck if you camp the AC and no matter how you do it disregard what some imbecile may say about you on the forums or otherwise.

[Phenyo]

Haha lists, thats a good one OP

[khandman]

If your afk at a camp and not able to clear the spawns, you can loose the camp. Looks like that's what has happened here.

[Tycoon]

The people on the list have YOU to blame for losing the camp.

You lost the camp. Do better next time. If you need to afk so long, call the next on the list.

[Splade]

Same thing happened to me in lguk. I camped out at frenzy the night before.
Log in. Every mob is up. I start clearing the camp. Clear entire frenzy area and 20+ minutes goes by and some rogue appears and says "why are you at my camp?". I was like, "what? I logged in and everything was up and no one around". Anyway, he asked if I called a CC and I said I didn't need to because it obviously wasn't camped. He said his friend died and he was at the uguk ZL trying to get him a Rez and the camp was still his even tho he wasn't there. I basically told him to go screw himself... Some people and their entitlement syndrome.
Youre not at a camp, actively clearing spawns , it ain't your camp anymore.
That being said, I blew an EE and rezzed his friend after I got my fbss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]