WOW Mob Stealer so brave.

[wwoneo]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone contests either one of them, you have to choose which you will continue to camp.

That's not true. Camp is defined by what you can see from a single vantage point. Go read the rules and try to troll again. I've already posted another exact quote from the staff's skype messages describing what defines a camp in another post. If you want to learn go find it.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by wwoneo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not true. Camp is defined by what you can see from a single vantage point. Go read the rules and try to troll again. I've already posted another exact quote from the staff's skype messages describing what defines a camp in another post. If you want to learn go find it.

That can't be absolute either since if it was I could call most of the front side of Velketor a single camp. Just stand at the top level of the spider area and look down. In practice I suspect the camp definitions depend on some degree of, "be reasonable."

Danth

[Maschenny]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That can't be absolute either since if it was I could call most of the front side of Velketor a single camp. Just stand at the top level of the spider area and look down. In practice I suspect the camp definitions depend on some degree of, "be reasonable."

Danth

Reasonable to who?

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Maschenny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reasonable to who?

Reasonable in the opinion of the staff member making the decision, of course.

Danth

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by wwoneo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not true. Camp is defined by what you can see from a single vantage point. Go read the rules and try to troll again. I've already posted another exact quote from the staff's skype messages describing what defines a camp in another post. If you want to learn go find it.

Nope. Azeth is right.

[Maschenny]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reasonable in the opinion of the staff member making the decision, of course.

Danth

You realize that would change depending on who's working at the time? Dont you think the rules should be more clear than the whim of the staff member that happens to be online?

And do you really want the most eloquent person in the dispute to be right every time? Cause that's what would happen if the rules were made up on the spot based on what the staff thought was reasonable.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Maschenny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize that would change depending on who's working at the time? Dont you think the rules should be more clear than the whim of the staff member that happens to be online?

And do you really want the most eloquent person in the dispute to be right every time? Cause that's what would happen if the rules were made up on the spot based on what the staff thought was reasonable.

You must be new here. Oh, April '16, that makes sense; you can't really be expected to know P1999's history. What you describe has indeed been the case here pretty well since the server opened. Rules have always been open to interpretation, precedent is never set in stone. Right, wrong, it is what it is.

Danth

[Cecily]

Let me just click that sticky thread a few posts above this one for you.

"Project 1999 Staff will not be defining what constitutes a camp. Instead, Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will arbitrate spawn disputes on a per-case-basis. We greatly encourage players to find their own resolution to spawn disputes, as the solution provided by the staff will at best be a win-lose situation, and possbily a lose-lose situation. No two decisions, even at the same 'camp', are guaranteed to be the same, as we will take into account multiple factors in making a determination on a 'camp'.

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders cleared. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. It should also be noted that if you camp out or leave the zone, you have forfeited a camp. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up."

[Maschenny]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You must be new here. Oh, April '16, that makes sense; you can't really be expected to know P1999's history. What you describe has indeed been the case here pretty well since the server opened. Rules have always been open to interpretation, precedent is never set in stone. Right, wrong, it is what it is.

Danth

Yeah, hold on, let me wait four years before offering my opinion. Good thing "reasonable" isn't being defined by you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That can't be absolute either since if it was I could call most of the front side of Velketor a single camp. Just stand at the top level of the spider area and look down. In practice I suspect the camp definitions depend on some degree of, "be reasonable."

Danth

Also you've strayed from your original statement from your first response, so whatever. Here you clearly intend for the players at the camp to employ a reasonable philosophy, not the staff.

[Tecmos Deception]

"In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders cleared."

Op didn't have PHs dead, by his own admission multiple ones were up at once. Not exactly cool to just take a named spawned when someone is working towards it... but hey, OP didn't have to try to do two named camps that he wasnt able to keep up with the spawns, either.

Someone said OP got fucked because he shoulda got to choose which camp he wanted when someone showed up to contest? Eh. Maybe. After all, he wasn't "holding down" both camps or he woulda been engaged with every mob as it spawned, not trying to clear 2 mobs before he got to the named.

/shrug