TMO

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course I like to post about my guild. Now I never was in TMO red because I didn't want to play with GG scum, but you're missing my point. You, mister high raid attendance, and the rest of your guild joining TMO is what killed them. Despite your obviously important contributions.

I was never in good guys or azrael, I ran a leveling guild on red before TMO came over. I also joined well before the merge, I was the first non-blue player to join TMO.

[Xaanka]

but ok let's listen to the guy who literally never played with TMO on red, not the guy who powerleveled all of the tmo blue players characters and was at every single raid.

[Cecily]

Youre bitter about the whole thing and I can understand that. I'm a little bit upset about it too. In this case, I think an outsider's perspective might have a better view of things.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Youre bitter about the whole thing and I can understand that. I'm a little bit upset about it too. In this case, I think an outsider's perspective might have a better view of things.

I'm not bitter about anything. I loved playing with TMO and I have no hard feels against anyone. I'm just telling it like it is, from the perspective of someone who was actually there start to finish. I used to chat with DD on the daily about these kinds of things and there were a lot of non-elfland factors in play that I'm not going to post about as to why he quit and why TMO red died. To keep it vague he had bigger things than an elf game going on in his life.

Also the whole guild shouldn't have relied on 1 player logging on consistently to function in the first place, which brings me back to my point from the other thread which is, all of the TMO blue officers and players abandoning the guild at Velious release is what initiated the slow death of TMO red.

[Cecily]

[Sun Jul 05 15:19:26 2015] GUILD MOTD: Gongshow - No raids until Tuesday morning with the exception of a Saturday night Trakanon (if you can't make it, don't sweat). Enjoy the holiday weekend. Work on 60 and VP keys if you still need it; make final preparations for Velious. *Important: Start smashing TMO. They chose to take in all of the servers scum - they are effectively Azrael, Friends, Good Guys, etc. now. Put their dicks in the dirt.*

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sun Jul 05 15:19:26 2015] GUILD MOTD: Gongshow - No raids until Tuesday morning with the exception of a Saturday night Trakanon (if you can't make it, don't sweat). Enjoy the holiday weekend. Work on 60 and VP keys if you still need it; make final preparations for Velious. *Important: Start smashing TMO. They chose to take in all of the servers scum - they are effectively Azrael, Friends, Good Guys, etc. now. Put their dicks in the dirt.*

Again, leadership failing.

I was telling them from the start, to take the good guys disband with strong consideration and not to let just anybody apply. I told them not to ignore players' history and deep rooted grudges on red and I was largely ignored. Their perspective being, "we're only letting these players apply, they aren't members until they prove themselves." which would make sense on blue but as the MOTD you posted shows, empire didn't know/care/give a shit about the difference between an app and member. They saw scumbags with TMO tags and decided to shit on us at any opportunity, rightfully so.

I spied on empire's guild chat through the entire TMO era and informed them of pretty much every single raid wipe attempt Empire ever threw at us, and rather than taking the advantage I had given them to stand their ground and camp empire on zone-ins using a surprise advantage, they would always make the call to camp out resulting in our raid being logout-camped for hours. I can't even count how many good players quit the guild or server because of the camp-outs. Just bad calls in general, I don't blame them because they were just as bad at PvP as us red players are at PvE but eh they really should have listened to the people who knew what they were talking about a little more.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but ok let's listen to the guy who literally never played with TMO on red, not the guy who powerleveled all of the tmo blue players characters and was at every single raid.

Nobody is listening to either of you

[Ravager]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG6bbLIHE-4

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody is listening to either of you

but senpai, quoting implies you read my post

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

well, I am reading every reply

hope that helps

Tiggles some kind of bluebie nizzar-mirkuls mix or what? lol