Tell me how to upgrade my toaster

[CmaN]

Alright, was more focused on the other issues, which an SSD will do nothing for. It is my bad for overlooking that in this discussion! Just going to wait for the hardware information.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by CmaN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright, was more focused on the other issues, which an SSD will do nothing for. It is my bad for overlooking that in this discussion! Just going to wait for the hardware information.

And to me those other issues arent hardware issues as they are settings issues. Turning down FPS helps with the stuttering and choppy gameplay and it changes the way you float. The other thing i have seen cause issues with choppyness is systems that run over 4.0ghz clock speed on their cpu's. Judging that the op is calling his rig a "toaster" i just kinda ruled that out. But as you have said having specs will help rule out/in things as a issue.

[CmaN]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And to me those other issues arent hardware issues as they are settings issues. Turning down FPS helps with the stuttering and choppy gameplay and it changes the way you float. The other thing i have seen cause issues with choppyness is systems that run over 4.0ghz clock speed on their cpu's. Judging that the op is calling his rig a "toaster" i just kinda ruled that out. But as you have said having specs will help rule out/in things as a issue.

Look I'm only interested in getting OP playing in an enjoyable fashion. Here you say its not a hardware issue, but settings - but your suggestion on page 1 was to upgrade to an ssd and drop fps to 30? You seem more interested in forum warrior points then actually helping.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by CmaN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look I'm only interested in getting OP playing in an enjoyable fashion. Here you say its not a hardware issue, but settings - but your suggestion on page 1 was to upgrade to an ssd and drop fps to 30? You seem more interested in forum warrior points then actually helping.

Slow zoning = hardware issue(suggest SSD)
Choppyness,etc = setting issue (turn fps to 30)

those were my 2 suggestions to his problems. What is your problem is another story.

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And to me those other issues(my edit other issues are the choppyness) arent hardware issues as they are settings issues. Turning down FPS helps with the stuttering and choppy gameplay and it changes the way you float. The other thing i have seen cause issues with choppyness is systems that run over 4.0ghz clock speed on their cpu's. Judging that the op is calling his rig a "toaster" i just kinda ruled that out. But as you have said having specs will help rule out/in things as a issue.

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Slow zoning = hardware issue(suggest SSD)
Choppyness,etc = setting issue (turn fps to 30)

those were my 2 suggestions to his problems. What is your problem is another story.

That was what I was thinking as well but all the tweaking I did (including FPS) didn't help. After doing much searching I found some old posts about the hitching issues in EQ and people saying that there is some specific (poor) coding in EQ that requires HD access during gameplay in an unusual way that can't be prevented/limited with large amounts of RAM. When the game does this HD access it causes the hitching in game.

Since I had EQ on a separate drive and it was a SATA drive not SSD it was making this worse. After moving EQ to the SSD drive with my OS install the issue went away completely.

I suppose using a RAMDISK would achieve the same result but if the OP is spending money anyway it's probably worthwhile to get an SSD for overall PC speed and they are relatively cheap (recently got a 500Gb SSD for about 100 bucks).

[CmaN]

I have no problem, and you'll have to forgive my post suggesting you are forum warrioring. Constantly quoting and picking apart posts gave me the inclination, but even if that's the case, it's really not my place to suggest you are doing anything but trying to help. I guess the more options OP has in their toolbox to fix the problem, the better. Probably would be best to get back on track then. Hopefully OP posts that they have solved their problem, or can provide more information regarding hardware. Cheers!

[Baler]

no that's not a throw money at it solution. That's a full system 'upgrade' solution which is no problem.

Could also spend like $30 or less for a 4gb stick of memory that could be used as a ramdisk plus additional ram.

For EQ 2.8ghz cpu and a 9600 GT are acceptable. If he was to switch to a laptop it would probably be integrated graphics, which isn't terrible but it's not exactly like a dedicated card.

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[Videri]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could also spend like $30 or less for a 4gb stick of memory that could be used as a ramdisk.

I think I might try this first and gauge its effect.

God, it's going to be cool when I'm not struggling to keep up on the little toaster that could. I should have asked this a year and a half ago. Thanks again for your replies.

[CmaN]

With the 2GB, I bet in those particular zones with higher asset counts, you are paging. My EQ currently is showing over half a gig of memory. So in your situation, it is extremely likely you are running out of memory and having to use the page file. You can run EQ in those zones you mentioned, and bring up your task manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del -> Start Task Manager) and click the performance tab.

Windows 7 can be alright with 2gb, but 4gb should be a minimal when running about anything, including a browser. I have a bunch of tabs open right now and my browser alone is using .3 gigs of memory, most of the time its much more then that, upwards to 600 megs.

You should certainly find compatible memory for your system and add at least 2 GB of memory. Check out your system documentation to find out the maximum and what type you need. There is a far out option of something like readyboost with a flash drive or something in the interim, but you will need to get that ram upgrade.

[Videri]

Innnteresting. Really, a laptop?? Wouldn't a desktop in a similar price range be preferable?