Quick question on exp pen.

[Rhambuk]

After sifting through 30 pages of the thread dumesh pointed me to the closest thing I could find was.

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not true, I've checked it with debugging repeatedly. In fact what happens is:

Example mob worth 1000 xp.

One person killing one mob gets 1000xp.

Six people killing six mobs get 6600xp (which equates to 1100xp per player before normalization).

If all six players are the same level and are class/race combinations without any XP modifier then all six players will get 1100xp each.

However, if the group is again the same level, but has some penalties etc, it works out like this:

Race        Class    Per Mob  For Six 
---------   -------  -------  ------- 
Human       Cleric     162       974 
Ogre        Warrior    174      1042 
Halfling    Rogue      142       851 
Erudite     Wizard     180      1083 
Barbarian   Shaman     171      1026 
Half-elf    Ranger     271      1624 
---------   -------  -------  -------
Total                 1100      6600

So except for the Human Cleric and the Halfing Rogue, all members of the group earn more XP for killing 6 mobs while grouped than they did killing one mob solo.

The benefits of solo'ing vs. grouping depend on a lot of factors, but from a raw XP perspective, if the group can consistently kill 6 mobs in the amount of time the solo'er kills one mob, the group will earn faster XP over time.

Later in the post Uthgaard verified bum's numbers, or at least mentioned them positively =p

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

search posts by me for a full explanation. I don't feel like typing it all again.

[Yak]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

search posts by me for a full explanation. I don't feel like typing it all again.

Why not just provide us the link?

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Yak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just provide us the link?

Because I've already spent quite a bit of time answering this question and ones like it 3 or 4 times over the last 6 months, and at the time I posted in this thread, I didn't want to expend the 5 minutes it would have taken to search my own posts and quote myself when I could spend 20 seconds typing a post directing those searching for the information to the place where they could find it.

Thanks for the assist Rhambuk.

I have a few posts by myself in that thread and others that detail the issue further. Maybe if I am bored later today I will take the time to repost the info myself. I might even be persuaded to do a write-up that can be stickied.

[Rhambuk]

Thanks dumesh, I think a stickied write up on how the penalty sharing works would be best because i can definitely see an identical thread popping up in a few weeks asking the same questions.

Where bumgardeners numbers are nice i think a more detailed explanation would be more helpful.

[Yak]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because I've already spent quite a bit of time answering this question and ones like it 3 or 4 times over the last 6 months, and at the time I posted in this thread, I didn't want to expend the 5 minutes it would have taken to search my own posts and quote myself when I could spend 20 seconds typing a post directing those searching for the information to the place where they could find it.

Thanks for the assist Rhambuk.

I have a few posts by myself in that thread and others that detail the issue further. Maybe if I am bored later today I will take the time to repost the info myself. I might even be persuaded to do a write-up that can be stickied.

I agree they really need to sticky the whole XP/Group Penalty thing, as it keeps coming up. Glad to see a definitive post.

[Yak]

Thanks Rhambuk that makes a lot more sense! That's the info that I was looking for!

[Chanus]

Right, in a group they do gain different amounts of XP per kill to balance out the inherent bonus/penalty of each race/class with the goal being everyone in the group advancing at the same rate.

The amount of XP per kill coming into the group as a whole is static (based on what is being killed and in what zone).

[Rhambuk]

makes sense now, no wonder rangers can't get groups poor guys

[Chanus]

It's kind of funny. They didn't want hybrids to level faster than others, so they gave them an XP penalty... and then they wanted hybrids to be able to keep up with their friends, so they made the group XP penalty... and then no one wanted to group with hybrids.