Miscellaneous: Vox Pathing?

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Hobby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WI, Div, Trans..was bound to be IB and DA somewhere in that mix as well unless they were staying just in sky at that point (Which may of been the case).

I was there for every trans kill that we got a shot for and we didn't pull through to the zoneline not once, we had a specific strat that we followed through every time, which I can honestly say probably wiped us a bit more than we would want to say, even during the rotation period where we grudgingly had to give IB spawns at that point.

I just want to apologize if this came off like I'm trying to fix it after one guild beat my guild to the spawn. I would like Vox to path through the door like she is supposed to, but a work around works as well if its not possible to get it working correctly. That was the point, anyways.
I'd like this project to be as classic as possible just like 90% of everyone else here, and that was the first time I had personally seen vox with my own eyes being pulled through the cubby, so I spoke up yo.

[virtue64]

so wait I don't understand, the collision and pathing is not how it was in classic, so you want to add a leash (which was also not classic) to make it more classic? how does that work?

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by virtue64 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so wait I don't understand, the collision and pathing is not how it was in classic, so you want to add a leash (which was also not classic) to make it more classic? how does that work?

They want to make it so the current strategy doesn't work, is all.

You know, because that'll stop those mean old uber guilds!

[Loke]

I don't know what the pathing is suppose to be like honestly, and for someone who has never seen her pulled out of her lair, it surprises me that you claim to know that she should path through the giants. I always viewed the giants as kind of the back way into her lair (supported by the notion that you have to move a rock out of the way to enter her lair from that direction). While it is odd that such a large dragon would fit through the tunnel that she currently paths through - going through the giant area is just as odd (if not more so).

I'm not trying to support one way or another - just saying that it makes just as little sense for her to path through the giants as it does for her to path through the tunnel you have to lev up.

As far as how she pathed on live, I never pulled her so I really can't say one way or another.

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what the pathing is suppose to be like honestly, and for someone who has never seen her pulled out of her lair, it surprises me that you claim to know that she should path through the giants. I always viewed the giants as kind of the back way into her lair (supported by the notion that you have to move a rock out of the way to enter her lair from that direction). While it is odd that such a large dragon would fit through the tunnel that she currently paths through - going through the giant area is just as odd (if not more so).

I'm not trying to support one way or another - just saying that it makes just as little sense for her to path through the giants as it does for her to path through the tunnel you have to lev up.

As far as how she pathed on live, I never pulled her so I really can't say one way or another.

I was just taking it from a logical point of view. I don't know that it did that for a fact personally, and friends have confirmed that it should go through the door, although it just seems logical that she cant fit through the cubby. Not saying it didn't happen, but when other people can confirm it for me, along with logical reasoning, the answer should be pretty obvious.

[Ponden]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not saying it didn't happen, but when other people can confirm it for me, along with logical reasoning, the answer should be pretty obvious.

Can you link videos please? Leash was added to Vox on live, so you can't use live as an example.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Ponden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you link videos please? Leash was added to Vox on live, so you can't use live as an example.

Live has been used as an example for fixes/workarounds in many situations.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was just taking it from a logical point of view. I don't know that it did that for a fact personally, and friends have confirmed that it should go through the door, although it just seems logical that she cant fit through the cubby. Not saying it didn't happen, but when other people can confirm it for me, along with logical reasoning, the answer should be pretty obvious.

Not trying to start an argument here, but how is it more logical that she warps through a smaller hole covered by a rock? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how you enter the lair through the giant area - through a small player sized hole covered by a rock. Just don't see how that makes more sense than her going through the cubby.

Again, however you want to do it works for me, I'm sure everyone on the server will adapt to whatever change is made - it's not like the way it is now gives any one group an advantage over another, just like a change will not benefit any one group. It just seems to me there is a lot of "a friend of mine remembers..." and "I don't know, but it makes more sense..." statements in here arguing for a change, but no actual hard evidence to support it.

[Gwence]

I dont know why this is even an issue, multiple guilds pulled vox out of her lair (through the back, or the front), their were multiple guilds that fought her in the lair as well, /shrug. It's also amazing people are trying to explain out logistics of what a mob can and can't fit through on everquest, whether it be p99 or eqlive mobs could always do things that would make you look twice.

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox5.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox6.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox7.html

took me about 4 minutes to find these, Im sure if I spent actual research time on it, could find a bunch more.

I guess the physical logistics of a dragon being able to have half her body through a solid object (in this case a wooden door) and her head phasing into solid rock is something that escaped those badass live developers as well.

[Hobby]

I gurantee you that Vox was ran to the Zoneline and wiped the zone a couple of times...if not to the zoneline, atleast past the king room. If it was pulled through cubby or not, I do not know, but i would assume it did path back through it.

Simply stating Vox was ran out of her room and wiped the zone from a comedic stand point rather than using it as an arguement.