Monk 2hb trick (with epic)

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

feels good having a gharn's and not having to play autismquest for an extra 4 damage per second

When you kill raid targets with 150 of your closest friends, who cares about DPS anyway? And I say this for Blue and Red.

[jolanar]

Just chiming in that you don't need epic for this to work.

[gildor]

I am with Jolanar, I am doing it on my 22 monk using a PB, now that my DW skill is over 150 its pretty awesome "quad attacking" 2 for max with the PB 2 with my offhand fists, without missing a round of 2h dmg

[Man0warr]

I stopped doing it because it's a hassle and DPS isn't really my primary role in a raid.

[fiveeauxfour]

I don't know if this question was answered already but at which dual wield weapon combo threshold does the swap become irrelevant?

wu's? primal/priceless battlehammers? surely gharns/fon is unbeatable

basically, when is it not worth sweating IRL trying to time this fucking mechanic

[Raev]

Originally Posted by fiveeauxfour [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know if this question was answered already but at which dual wield weapon combo threshold does the swap become irrelevant?

wu's? primal/priceless battlehammers? surely gharns/fon is unbeatable

basically, when is it not worth sweating IRL trying to time this fucking mechanic

according to my sperglord calculator, the upgraded bo staff is unbeatable.

• Upgraded Bo Staff + 9/17.5 offhand fist: 105 dps
• Upgraded Abashi's Rod: 96 dps
• Upgraded Gharn's Rock/FON: 95 dps
• Current Gharn's Rock/FON: 88 dps
• Current Bo Staff + 9/17.5 offhand fist: 87 dps
• Current Abashi's Rod: 79 dps
• Current 2x Primal Hammers: 70 dps

Upgraded is with the increased 2HB bonus, triple attack, better damage table, etc

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

according to my sperglord calculator, the upgraded bo staff is unbeatable.

• Upgraded Bo Staff + 9/17.5 offhand fist: 105 dps
• Upgraded Abashi's Rod: 96 dps
• Upgraded Gharn's Rock/FON: 95 dps
• Current Gharn's Rock/FON: 88 dps
• Current Bo Staff + 9/17.5 offhand fist: 87 dps
• Current Abashi's Rod: 79 dps
• Current 2x Primal Hammers: 70 dps

Upgraded is with the increased 2HB bonus, triple attack, better damage table, etc

What are the actual numbers for the 2h bonus math? Couldn't find anything on it (although I only did a few searches.) Also, when you say 9/17.5 offhand, are you assuming people are getting 2x offhand rounds in between bo swings, or that's 1 round with 100% haste? 2x swings will take perfect timing and I don't think people could keep that up continuously, especially since you have to worry about positioning etc.

[Raev]

When the October 2001 patch hits, I believe 2H damage bonuses should follow this table. Generally speaking, 2H weapons have been junk for the entire life of the server. That will change with the Oct 2001 patch. Abashi's Rod will be marginally better than Gharn's Rock+Fist of Nature. The Bo Staff of Trorsmang will beat out double Wu's Fists of Mastery. Smart warriors will choose Gaudralek over two SODs (except Sakuragi, because fuck that terrible iksar 2HS animation) and the 2H epic will be seen more frequently than the split 1H epic. Paladins and Shadowknights will be able to do moderate damage. The biggest losers will be Rogues, who will be stuck with 1H.

Also, I played around a bit last year with dual wielding the Bo Staff. It's not as hard as you make it sound. When you see the 'you crush XX' you just click the mouse, wait 1 second, and click again. It's still way more work than I like to do, especially since the average raid on P1999 consists of about 50x the number of players needed to actually beat the content.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When the October 2001 patch hits, I believe 2H damage bonuses should follow this table. Generally speaking, 2H weapons have been junk for the entire life of the server. That will change with the Oct 2001 patch. Abashi's Rod will be marginally better than Gharn's Rock+Fist of Nature. The Bo Staff of Trorsmang will beat out double Wu's Fists of Mastery. Smart warriors will choose Gaudralek over two SODs (except Sakuragi, because fuck that terrible iksar 2HS animation) and the 2H epic will be seen more frequently than the split 1H epic. Paladins and Shadowknights will be able to do moderate damage. The biggest losers will be Rogues, who will be stuck with 1H.

I'm not sold on a 30-40 point damage bonus on a slow weapon being game changing. More worried about monk triple attack.

[Colgate]

considering you're not getting an offhand hit in every single time you do this and gharn's has an unresistable 80 damage proc, i'm pretty sure gharn's + fist of nature/lightning is unbeatable