Conservatism vs Progressivism

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our present problem of criminality is one of inequality and disparate punishment. Let us have but one penalty for all crime that we might be more reserved in what we declare criminal.

The criminal justice system as well as all conservative systems are designed to disenfranchise poor voters, aka black voters.

The problems that the united states faces is one that can stem from one single issue, it is a racist country.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

one single issue

Is all you ever talk about.

It's not the 1960s anymore, get out of here with your regressive "skin color is the only thing that is important" shit. Skin color hasn't determined ones class status in America for over 30 years.


Black lives don't matter any more than anyone else's. Grow up.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is all you ever talk about.

It's not the 1960s anymore, get out of here with your regressive "skin color is the only thing that is important" shit. Skin color hasn't determined ones class status in America for over 30 years.


Black lives don't matter any more than anyone else's. Grow up.

literatly everything in my OP is designed to disenfranchise voters.

If your god damned OLDencon secret society that you neocons support wasn't trying ruin the lives of the black women and men of america, the nation would be far better off.

fine, you want another issue?

60% of our taxes going to wars for no reason that help nobody is a pretty fucking big one.

which to no surprise is the work of the conservative party

[Pokesan]

southern strategy?

but lots of people are helped by the wars we wage. you just don't know who or how.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

southern strategy?

but lots of people are helped by the wars we wage. you just don't know who or how.

Yea, islamic fundamentalists seem to do great when we get involved in the middle east.

So far to name a few, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin laden and ISIS. All created as a direct result of our military's involvement in the middle east.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea, islamic fundamentalists seem to do great when we get involved in the middle east.

So far to name a few, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin laden and ISIS. All created as a direct result of our military's involvement in the middle east.

yeah, so? what point do you think you're making

[Filthy_Pagan]

Since we all know progressives are so far gone that they're the actual sexists and racists these days (see horese shoe theory and then bend it till the ends meet) im going to say some things about the alleged "racist legal system" that liberals often cite.

When I was locked up, the vast majority of inmates were black, a few were white, a few were hispanic/ latino/ whatever, and even 1 was asian.

Now, while progressives constantly cry racism when speaking of our legal system, I can say first hand that this is not the case. Literally every one of the black inmates admitted guilt when talking about why they were incarcerated. It wasn't, "I was driving while black" or "jaywalking while black" or even "I got locked up for my first offense that was a petty misdemeanor". It was "yeah, i was selling crack" or "my girl was cheating on me so i beat the shit out of her" or "i shot somebody over a gang dispute". They didn't say it quite like that, but if i were to emulate their vernacular and grammar, you'd just accuse me of being racist.


Anyway, progressives are wrong on every front except for "we need to quit fucking up the environment". Socially, they're wrong 100% of the time.

[iruinedyourday]

Of course people in jail often commit crimes to get there, you so dumb to think progressives think everyone in there is innocent?

a progressive looks at the way people in poor parts of the country are behaving - lets take selling crack for example.

well, for one putting people in jail for selling crack, does nothing to stop people from selling it. Infact it increases the amount of crime in the areas where people sell it. Hence some of the other inmates being jailed, for:

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"my girl was cheating on me so i beat the shit out of her" or "i shot somebody over a gang dispute".

A progressive looks at why are people in this neighborhood selling crack, is it because they are poor and miserable and human, (don't forget ALL humans do drugs) crack is just the cheapest one available?

If we legalize drug use and provide health care for anyone, like in any developed nation we reduce crime, reduce addiction, reduce usage.

who pays for it?

people likely outside of your tax bracket, so not you.

who saves money?

you do, because quality of life increases and cost of living well goes down. Less cost for insurance , less cost for health care, less cost for education.

taking care of your neighbor means you have good neighbors, treating your neighbor like shit, means they have a shitty neighbor.

Now all that aside, how come you don't hear any stores from filthy pagan about all the white people who do coke, which is the same fucking drug as crack.

OH YEA cus the CONSERVATIVE run system was attempting to disenfranchise black voters by sending them to jail thereby revoking their ability to vote.

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course people in jail often commit crimes to get there, you so dumb to think progressives think everyone in there is innocent?

a progressive looks at the way people in poor parts of the country are behaving - lets take selling crack for example.

well, for one putting people in jail for selling crack, does nothing to stop people from selling it. Infact it increases the amount of crime in the areas where people sell it. Hence some of the other inmates being jailed, for:



A progressive looks at why are people in this neighborhood selling crack, is it because they are poor and miserable and human, (don't forget ALL humans do drugs) crack is just the cheapest one available?

If we legalize drug use and provide health care for anyone, like in any developed nation we reduce crime, reduce addiction, reduce usage.

who pays for it?

people likely outside of your tax bracket, so not you.

who saves money?

you do, because quality of life increases and cost of living well goes down. Less cost for insurance , less cost for health care, less cost for education.

taking care of your neighbor means you have good neighbors, treating your neighbor like shit, means they have a shitty neighbor.

Now all that aside, how come you don't hear any stores from filthy pagan about all the white people who do coke, which is the same fucking drug as crack.

OH YEA cus the CONSERVATIVE run system was attempting to disenfranchise black voters by sending them to jail thereby revoking their ability to vote.

The first thing i noticed is that you immediately shed your claims of a racist system and gave credit where credit was due- they target the poor. Not a specific ethnic group.

Now. Why would someone have to sell crack? Because they're unwilling to act like civilized human beings and assimilate into modern culture by getting an actual job. Why? because of their own racist beliefs. "Whitey caused this, whitey did that, im not gonna play into that system. They OWE me because of historical events I never experienced personally, but those people looked like me so im entitled." Pretty soon they realize that EBT doesnt really buy enough food to sustain life, so they need additional income, and jordans are expensive.

You didnt hear me mentioning whites doing coke (there were a couple in jail for that reason) because we weren't talking about that. Notice how IRYD tries to deflect accountability when the subject is black and attempts to use the "WELL HE DID IT TOO" kindergarten defense. Classic liberal argument.

Socialism only works when people work and pay taxes. When a good chunk of people see having 6 kids to get a fat welfare check a career path, they arent supporting socialism, therefor it doesnt work.

And if you think that legalizing drugs lowers crime rates, you're terribly mistaken and lack any sort of real knowledge of how the world works. Even in places where drugs are legalized, the illegal drug trade still thrives. I can go to a dozen people right now and get top quality marijuana from people for a LOT less than what dispensaries charge.

You don't have any legitimate arguments, you're simply parroting libcuck rhetoric because that's what your overlords programmed in you while you were being brainwashed.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if you think that legalizing drugs lowers crime rates, you're terribly mistaken and lack any sort of real knowledge of how the world works.

Property crime rates have tripled and violent crime rates have doubled since President Nixon created the Drug Enforcement Agency in 1973 and declared an "all-out global war"to end the "drug menace." The connection is not coincidental.