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[Cecily]

This thread is giving me such a raging clue right now. I think we'd better follow it.

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[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Peener [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a 58 bard. I've been camping Lodizal off-and-on for the past few days, and today I was lucky enough to have him spawn. Since I was by myself, I had two options: 1) ask guildies for help, or 2) call my RL friends who agreed to log in to kill him if needed. I figured since <Clue> had quite a few people online, it would be easier to just ask them.

Now here's where I admittedly messed up - I didn't speak up when the "raid" leader Rainbowcop started randoming off Lodizal's loot. I was a little jittery and excited from actually getting the spawn, and in the back of my head I was thinking that no decent person would simply random off everything without giving me anything since I'd been the one camping it for days on end.

So you are camping a mob you admittedly know you can't kill. You didn't camp the mob for days on end it has set windows and you called in your guild for help. Sounds like poor planning on your part.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you are camping a mob you admittedly know you can't kill. You didn't camp the mob for days on end it has set windows and you called in your guild for help. Sounds like poor planning on your part.

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

[baue1446]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

Spot on dude... exactly what needed to be said. Hes upset the people he called to save him wanted roll? Thats like me rolling into ToV and finding Vulak up and saying "MINE" then call in 70 people and tell them they cannot roll. OP is a douche that was not prepared for the mob he was camping.

[QFuzzle]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

This is the epic backfire.

[Peener]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

The first problem with your argument is you can't fucking read. This is Christmas break. I have a group of RL friends (one of whom IS a shaman) who were prepared to login and help me with him. I wouldn't have spent any amount of time camping him unless I had a plan to take him down.

The second problem is you're fabricating shit. When Lodizal spawned, there were 6 people in the zone. The only other 55+ person was an AFK druid right next to him who he immediately killed (and then proceeded to aggro me). I didn't take the spawn from any capable group.

In retrospect, it was stupid to ask <Clue> for help instead of my RL friends, but the whole point is it shouldn't have been.

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Peener [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first problem with your argument is you can't fucking read. This is Christmas break. I have a group of RL friends (one of whom IS a shaman) who were prepared to login and help me with him. I wouldn't have spent any amount of time camping him unless I had a plan to take him down.

The second problem is you're fabricating shit. When Lodizal spawned, there were 6 people in the zone. The only other 55+ person was an AFK druid right next to him who he immediately killed (and then proceeded to aggro me). I didn't take the spawn from any capable group.

In retrospect, it was stupid to ask <Clue> for help instead of my RL friends, but the whole point is it shouldn't have been.

bard and shaman aren't duoing and lodizal and obviously your RL friends weren't there to help or you wouldn't have called your guild (probably former at this point and good for them).

plan better and don't start threads that just make you look bad. would have been simple to say /gu lodizal is up I have fte will anyone come help I will be taking the map or shell or whatever, but your failure to think didn't allow for that. also not hard to type as a bard with selos on and kiting you have plenty of time.

[Peener]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bard and shaman aren't duoing and lodizal and obviously your RL friends weren't there to help or you wouldn't have called your guild (probably former at this point and good for them).

plan better and don't start threads that just make you look bad. would have been simple to say /gu lodizal is up I have fte will anyone come help I will be taking the map or shell or whatever, but your failure to think didn't allow for that. also not hard to type as a bard with selos on and kiting you have plenty of time.

Okay. I'm gonna stop responding to retarded drivel like this because every knuckle dragging shithead making this argument is either in <clue> or can't read. Or both.

Stop saying my RL friends weren't there or I didn't have a plan. I could've easily gotten a warrior, shaman and rogue to help me take down Lodizal.

Why didn't I? Because I didn't think it mattered. I thought help was help. I didn't expect that my tardswarm of a guild would come in and steal the shit I FTE'd. I thought it was common decency that the guy who sits there for days waiting for something to spawn should get, well, fucking something.

I've been playing EQ for since Kunark live, and I've helped guildies kill shit like IF in BW or IB in Chardok dozens of times. I never ONCE thought to fucking random on the shit they dropped. Explain to me how this circumstance is any different.

This wasn't a raid mob. It's not as if it was an equal effort from everyone involved. A zerg swarm of 13 people under level 55 (half of whom didn't do anything throughout the fight) showed up and effectively stole it.

I'm not saying I was faultless here, but if you're going to argue the point stop making up total bullshit about how I broke rules by kiting the mob (even though there was no one there) or that I didn't have options.