Kurt Russell Gets It

[George_Costanza]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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This bill is one the United States military already fits...lol.

You gun nuts don't care how many disadvantaged city people have to die for your stupid fantasies of beating ICBMs and Abrams with your grandpa's m1 garand, as long as the violence doesn't come to your lily-white safe zone. PRO TIP: the government isn't out to get you if you have nothing to hide, never has been.

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by George_Costanza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This bill is one the United States military already fits...lol.

You gun nuts don't care how many disadvantaged city people have to die for your stupid fantasies of beating ICBMs and Abrams with your grandpa's m1 garand, as long as the violence doesn't come to your lily-white safe zone. PRO TIP: the government isn't out to get you if you have nothing to hide, never has been.

Your statement is about as silly as they come and demonstrates a deep, thoroughgoing, willful, ignorance on your part. People like you are the first to come running to us "gun nuts" when you have an evil person such as Syed Farook gunning down your family members. When it is your child laid out dead, in a pool of her own blood, you all of a sudden will become a "gun nut" too.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your statement is about as silly as they come and demonstrates a deep, thoroughgoing, willful, ignorance on your part. People like you are the first to come running to us "gun nuts" when you have an evil person such as Syed Farook gunning down your family members. When it is your child laid out dead, in a pool of her own blood, you all of a sudden will become a "gun nut" too.

Nah, he'll blame his own white privilege and convince himself that he's somehow at fault for offending these Muslims so hard that they were forced to gun down the evil oppressive whites.

[sOurDieSel]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree if armed rebellion was necessary gun laws wouldn't even be on the table or an issue. It's too easy to get a gun or any other deadly piece of equipment in this country.

I kind of feel that you should also need a licence to prepare food for public consumption or build something for someone.

Laws and restrictions if properly implemented won't stop people who actually need the tools for a livelihood for example in the northwest.

But there sure are a lot of dumb ass hicks with modded AR15's thinking it's legitimate to hunt small game with a 5.56 NATO FMJ round where I live [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And there is no game here bigger than a small dog. (small swamp dear)

What is a "modded" AR15 and what makes it more dangerous then a regular AR15?

.223/5.56 is a legal caliber to hunt deer and small game in my state. FMJ is illegal to hunt with in most states. Additionally .223 and 5.56 is a very small round, kinda like a .22LR on steroids if anything it is considered by most hunters to be UNDER-powered for big game hunting.

TL;DR Only a nutty liberal with a poor understanding of the 2nd Amendment and firearms in general would think a AR15 is overpowered to hunt small game with.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by sOurDieSel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is a "modded" AR15 and what makes it more dangerous then a regular AR15?

.223/5.56 is a legal caliber to hunt deer and small game in my state. FMJ is illegal to hunt with in most states. Additionally .223 and 5.56 is a very small round, kinda like a .22LR on steroids if anything it is considered by most hunters to be UNDER-powered for big game hunting.

TL;DR Only a nutty liberal with a poor understanding of the 2nd Amendment and firearms in general would think a AR15 is overpowered to hunt small game with.

Many states have bans on small calibers and carbines for this reason. It was deemed inhumane to hunt with anything less than a big bore for big game hunting. This is in the most redneck of fly-over midwest states too, yeah, some rednecks they are. The nerve of them to make it illegal to hunt with small calibers.

I personally maintain a .457 using 280+ grain but I don't hunt anymore. No point.

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No i went thru my states hunting courses and got liscened, nato rounds are shit for hunting, and especially with a AR 15 ment to spray and pray. The laws on the books make it illegal to be an asshat but that doesn't stop johnny reb from going out and spraying and praying without regard to whats downrange of their target, or even if they actually know what they are shooting at.

It would be better if they only allowed the use of approved buckshot rounds designed for hunting or similar rounds.

Then you have asshats doing shit like.

http://aattp.org/terrifying-new-bull...ing-the-r-i-p/ which probably circumvents the FMJ laws.

The AR15 nato rounds were designed to wound and be dangerous as fuck, they teach soldiers to aim or the ground/feet to cause maximum carnage and richoches if needed. (Yeah, centermass and all that) but that doesn't always translate into what happens for real.

The AR15 might be acceptable as a competition weapon but it's a shitty weapon to be in the hands of civillian for any other reason and there's way better competition rifles.

Sadly I'm familiar with firearms [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And .22 or 5.56 would be the last round I would want for self defense from a bear or boar, they'd most likely not notice being shot unless you hit an artery, richochete off bone and cause massive internal dmg, or hit the brain/heart.

When was the last time you went hunting and someone was "spraying and praying"? I've been a hunter over 30 years... I've shot guns since I was 12 years old... I've spent a considerable time in the woods, and I have yet to see someone "spraying and praying."

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were u live, i'm i the 'green swamp' area of central Florida, and we have a really high # of incidents and no were near enough officers for enforcement, poaching is also a big problem here and in the glades. I've literally seen really bad gun handling 1st hand on private property near two different locations 40 miles apart.

I was born and raised in Utah and I feel like the mormorns, that state has there shit together, and regulation is not a problem because of culture and population density. I wouldn't think people would be so dumb there, but it is a problem in select areas. Enough to warrant real state and local legislation to deal with it.

I spent most of my time in the forests of the Pacific Northwest. Although, I have been hunting in the everglades several times. I lived in South Dade County during the early 80s. Even there among the gator poachers I never saw "spraying and praying." I am beginning to think you are giving me anecdote from newspaper headlines. My point is that I seriously doubt your exaggerations are anything substantial. I don't deny there are idiots with guns and I certainly don't deny that hunting accidents occur, but their frequency is not what you would have us believe.

[sOurDieSel]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No i went thru my states hunting courses and got liscened, nato rounds are shit for hunting, and especially with a AR 15 ment to spray and pray. The laws on the books make it illegal to be an asshat but that doesn't stop johnny reb from going out and spraying and praying without regard to whats downrange of their target, or even if they actually know what they are shooting at.

It would be better if they only allowed the use of approved buckshot rounds designed for hunting or similar rounds.

Then you have asshats doing shit like.

http://aattp.org/terrifying-new-bull...ing-the-r-i-p/ which probably circumvents the FMJ laws.

The AR15 nato rounds were designed to wound and be dangerous as fuck, they teach soldiers to aim or the ground/feet to cause maximum carnage and richoches if needed. (Yeah, centermass and all that) but that doesn't always translate into what happens for real.

The AR15 might be acceptable as a competition weapon but it's a shitty weapon to be in the hands of civillian for any other reason and there's way better competition rifles.

Sadly I'm familiar with firearms [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] rofl, right

And .22 or 5.56 would be the last round I would want for self defense from a bear or boar they'd most likely not notice being shot unless you hit an artery, richochete off bone and cause massive internal dmg, or hit the brain/heart.

Nato rounds? --You realize that 5.56 is the same size at .223? What matters is the bullet tip. FMJ is illegal to hunt with in most states and expanding tips are required. FMJ is however required under international law for war.

Spray and Pray? This isn't Counter-Strike. Fully automatic weapons are regulated by the federal government.

An "evil" AR15 shooting 5.56//.223 can take down a wild boar just fine (Although you stated before that there is NO GAME larger then a small dog in your area and now all of a sudden there is bear and boars? rofl) . Buck shot is ILLEGAL to use in my state in MOST areas and ruins the meat. Most people consider buckshot to be for women or children whom can't aim properly.

You never answered what a 'modded' AR15 is either.

PS- FMJ isn't illegal to own under federal law only ARMOR-PIERCING ammo is. Most modern rifle ammo used for hunting (FMJ or NOT) can pierce typical body armor but is exempt i.e. .30-06, .308, .270 etc.

TL;DR Stick to hunting mobs in Norrath.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by sOurDieSel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TL;DR Stick to hunting mobs in Norrath.

stick to posting here idiot http://1source.basspro.com/index.php/talk-forums/index

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by sOurDieSel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PS- FMJ isn't illegal to own under federal law only ARMOR-PIERCING ammo is. Most modern rifle ammo used for hunting (FMJ or NOT) can pierce typical body armor but is exempt i.e. .30-06, .308, .270 etc.

A few handguns have been demonstrated to penetrate body armor, i.e. the 5.7. So its not like armor piercing is some kind of hallowed ground that can be regulated. Plenty of civ carbines like you said are popping anything not plated. The regs on armor piercing is just for bullets specifically designed and marketed as armor piercing, its a gimmick.

Ironically, the 5.7 is considered garbage for self defense for the same reason it can penetrate the body armor. Its another 22 LR on steroids piece of shit designed and engineered for full automatic weapons. I'd still carry it for SD because it may as well be fully auto mini-rifle rounds the way you can stick-fire the fuck out of it. Also one of the loudest sounds you will ever hear too, and that counts for something in SD when dealing with large crowds/bystanders/additional aggressors.

Armor piercing means shit. Its military industrial complex scare talk. If you aren't wearing plate as an officer or enlisted you are wrong, poor, or a combination of both.