Game Mechanics: Sontalak AE

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I was about to link that video.

From 0:20 to 1:30 that cleric casts no group heals on his group. They all are slowly taking AOE damage and then at the end of it he casts a group CH to top off his group.

He seems to take AEs (loses buff and Halfling makes audible "I got hit noise" at 0:18, 0:32, 0:50, 1:04, 1:16, 1:30, (he DAs), 2:00, 2:14. Suggesting a 12-14 second delay between AEs... Never once do two AEs come back to back in a 3-5second period.

A few things:

On P99 over that 70 second period you could expect 14-21 Fire AE procs over that duration (assuming 3-5sec between procs like observed last night). That is more than double a fully buffed MT's HP. Yet they seem to have no problem not healing during that period of time.

It is slightly possible he proc'd that much and they just resisted a lot? I doubt this however they may be stacking 255 FR whereas on P99 we are required to stack 255 MR instead.

Which brings me to another point. Again - http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...highlight=Roar - Notice how very few people are eating fears. Trying to cast group CH (12s cast time) on P99 would be absolutely suicide. However here he has no issue because he really never gets feared. Dragon Roar REALLY needs to be put on the correct version with no extra Lure check.

If it is intended to be a proc, it seems to have a recharge on it around 12 seconds. If it intended to be a proc in classic it should have a recast of about 12-14 seconds.

He was certainly harder than the other first brood but he shouldn't be that ridiculous.

Already did that Raev. It seems to proc about every 12 seconds or so. I'm inclined to say it has a delay on its proc. One that may have been removed in later expansions like Luclin/Velious.

Anyone with classic parser able to pull up the spell data of Molten Breath from 2001?

[evilkorn]

2001-01-09:

Molten Breath
Decrease Hit Points (HP) by 650 (L1)
Cancel Magic + 9 levels


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Classes: None

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Range to Target: 300 feet
Area Effect Range: 200 feet

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Skill: Instantaneous
Allowable Targets: NPC

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Resistance Check: Fire

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Spell Duration: Instant
Area Effect Duration: 5.0 seconds
Recast Delay: 12.0 seconds

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When you cast: You spout lava.
When someone casts: Soandso spews forth a gout of lava.
Spell cast on you: Your body combusts as the lava hits you.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's body combusts as the lava hits them.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by evilkorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2001-01-09:

Molten Breath
Decrease Hit Points (HP) by 650 (L1)
Cancel Magic + 9 levels


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Classes: None

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Range to Target: 300 feet
Area Effect Range: 200 feet

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Skill: Instantaneous
Allowable Targets: NPC

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Resistance Check: Fire

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Spell Duration: Instant
Area Effect Duration: 5.0 seconds
Recast Delay: 12.0 seconds

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When you cast: You spout lava.
When someone casts: Soandso spews forth a gout of lava.
Spell cast on you: Your body combusts as the lava hits you.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's body combusts as the lava hits them.

Typically NPCs can bypass the recast timer on spells (like Venril Sathir) if they are flagged as procs. But I've got a feeling, based on the classic video posted, that's not the case with Molten Breath. It seems to be pretty typical around 12-14s on the AE.

[Scryll]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Typically NPCs can bypass the recast timer on spells (like Venril Sathir) if they are flagged as procs. But I've got a feeling, based on the classic video posted, that's not the case with Molten Breath. It seems to be pretty typical around 12-14s on the AE.

Yeah this is really confusing me, im having a hard time remembering exactly what we did besides zerging him on live.

But I found this on allakhazam; http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/n...6&p=2#comments

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#Jul 15 2001 at 12:55 AMRating: Default
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Slow does land on him, but he will dispell it. tricky little guy. really have to just zergling him and hope for low proc rate, -dex poison work too.


So with this, I guess it might have been a proc after all and we kinda need to spam cripple / dex debuff him. But the experience we had with him last night and taking 650x7 within 3 seconds, this is just insane.

[Freakish]

Is his updated proc % in game? This guy still fires off too much to heal through.

[Oleris]

ya know it's broken when a ST key mob stays alive for 48+ hours.

[Uuruk]

I don't think he's died on red.

[Slathar]

This is classic. quit wasting Devs time.

[Docx]

this fight is pure bullshit in its current state.

[Morlaeth]

Meh, he's died each spawn.