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Old 11-06-2015, 06:17 PM
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My scenario is grp of ppl all in range kill mob it drops a no drop item only usable by 2 ppl in grp 1 being me and the other person loots corpse instantly and takes item then disbands grp and when questioned says sorry, we going somewhere else now our porter here.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:31 PM
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My main concern is the person being in the group having a determining factor or not. If the person was out of group for mob death and in range to group members but can't loot for like 3-4 mins then I would agree its the groups fault from not preventing it. However if you are in group with someone then you probably aren't looking to kill that person over loot you banded together for to even make possible. I just want to make sense or she more light on the finer details of ninja looting.
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:57 PM
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Always make sure to say the group loot rules in group chat when a new player joins the group so it is in the logs. At that point by staying in the group you are consenting to said rules and violating them is a PNP violation. Also make sure you have at least 1 player of the group out of PVP range of someone so PVP can't possibly happen and solve that particular rules issue.
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:24 PM
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Praise Llandris, this one was big in ooc this morning glad it was looked into.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:54 PM
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:03 PM
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I understand why he would say that about a guild getting a mob ninja looted by a guild member, this scenario seems a bit different since it was a pick up group. In your scenario you have a position of power over the ninja looted being their guildleader, in a pick up group no one is in authority
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:13 PM
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it's the same concept in both scenarios where pvp can't prevent it from happening

what you can do afterward is irrelevant, be it kicking them from the group or kicking them from the guild
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:20 PM
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who ninja looted what ? at the raid?
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:24 PM
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someone claimed to be selling a ring of lightning a month into velious, so i asked for encounter logs for the 4 or 5 king tormax kills to see if anyone had looted one without saying anything or didn't give it to the person who was awarded it

he refused and moved it to resolved and told me to manage the guild better

in any case, his stance before has been "if pvp can solve it, GMs don't care"

which also doesn't really make sense, considering training is against the rules
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:37 PM
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someone claimed to be selling a ring of lightning a month into velious, so i asked for encounter logs for the 4 or 5 king tormax kills to see if anyone had looted one without saying anything or didn't give it to the person who was awarded it

he refused and moved it to resolved and told me to manage the guild better

in any case, his stance before has been "if pvp can solve it, GMs don't care"

which also doesn't really make sense, considering training is against the rules
Totally get where you're coming from, you're making great points, but you're asking a GM to spend time researching server logs for you? Thought for training you had to provide proof, e.g. FRAPS.

Also, I'd like to think at least one member of Empire, given its notable white knights, would have said something.
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