Dem Debates

[Lune]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mainstream news outlets such as CNN and MSNBC are owned by billionaires. Conflict of interest?

Al-Jazeera has better balance, perspective, and integrity in reporting US current events than any major news outlet here.

I read Al-Jazeera. This is generally true, but Al-Jazeera is disgustingly sympathetic to Palestinians. They focus overwhelmingly on the plight of Palestinians in this situation with little regard for context or the big picture of things.

"Butchering Israeli civilians is okay because muh feelings, muh oppression, muh religion of violence."

I'm not a fan of Israel, but looking at the whole thing pragmatically, I want to see Muslims being brutalized. And nobody brutalizes Muslims better than Israel, except maybe other Muslims.

Otherwise it's a pretty great news source though. Objective with a slight economic-left and social-right slant.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Objective with a slight economic-left and social-right slant.

I love me some Arabic monarchy.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what exactly scares you about china. is it the old ass tiny diesel aircraft carrier they bought from russia?

2 billion soon to be very desperate people.

In ten years Africa will be the new Middle East, farmland will be the new oil and China will be the new USSR.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 billion soon to be very desperate people.

In ten years Africa will be the new Middle East, farmland will be the new oil and China will be the new USSR.

Population growth in China is tepid due to actual effective governance and cultural evolution; it's not expected to be a problem, and will probably follow a trend similar to Western nations where development = lower birthrates.

They can be as desperate as they want, the USA and its alliance is monolithic and basically controls the vast majority of the world's wealth. Of the top 15 countries with the highest GDP, 12 of them are either US allies or puppets. If relations with China severely destabilized, we would see rearmament of Japan and Germany, two countries that are extremely good at war. Nevermind the fact that China simply lacks the resources to survive if cut off from the world economy, which would occur in the face of deteriorating relations.

China is essentially powerless to meaningfully challenge US/EU hegemony, and that won't change for at least a generation.

While aircraft carriers are already obsolete for this kind of conflict, the total superiority of US power projection through its logistical system, alliances, and network of military installations is robust enough to still control world shipping even if China were able to protect its coast from US fleets through use of shore-based missiles.

[iruinedyourday]

Dont want to derail Lune's very well thought out and intelligent counterpoints, but more off beat media covering the medias coverup of Bernies pretty clear victory last night: http://www.alternet.org/media/bernie...ary-won-debate

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what exactly scares you about china. is it the old ass tiny diesel aircraft carrier they bought from russia?

Cyber espionage - stealing our technology and manufacturing our products and then selling them back to us. If we had tariffs it wouldn't matter, but free trade is the mantra of both parties now so I guess we'll all work at CVS as cashiers

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And Chafee.....that "well it was my first week in the Senate and everyone else voted that way" excuse was priceless.

laughed my ass off at this.

Also: I'm tired about hearing about the damn legal scandal threatening to knock my primary opponent from this race!

Not sure if Bern was trying to appear "above it" or if he's literally working against his own chance at president for his own interests, but either way this debate provided enough data to reinforce my impression of him as a total serf laying on his back with his mouth open catching drippings.

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Democratic debate last night was pretty fun, right?! They talked about some real issues. Except Webb who just kept QQing over not getting enough time.

And Chafee.....that "well it was my first week in the Senate and everyone else voted that way" excuse was priceless.

I definitely feel the Bern!

This years debates have taught me one thing...
Democrats are stupid to the core.
Republicans are stupid 75% of the way.
Seems to me like democrats are all about "Shut up, dont look at my flaws, just let me promise you free stuff youll never get"

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Ranndom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This years debates have taught me one thing...
Democrats are stupid to the core.
Republicans are stupid 75% of the way.
Seems to me like democrats are all about "Shut up, dont look at my flaws, just let me promise you free stuff youll never get"

we managed to be pretty positive in this thread for a short moment until a republican showed up....

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I'm sitting here in the middle and yeah I'm not amused by that debate or the media follow up debacle.