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[Gustoo]

People can be jerks, they can act like jerks, whatever.

The problem is that OOC allows flamboyant mean players a norrath wide channel to put their nonsense out there.

Because OOC is a general channel, most players are not going to turn it off.

Additionally, most new to the server guys don't even know how to turn off chat channels, and by the time they figure it out, the damage will have been done, since they have already spent a lot of time seeing what goes on in /ooc

It is bad for classic, it is bad for server experience and it is bad for server growth. You log into red and feel surrounded by toxic.

Regular grief and the normal interactions on the server are nothing like the non stop 100% of the time poison coming from OOC.

So that is why I was thinking maybe OOC is bad. And then how Agatha likes OOC so much seems like a good indicator of its badness? Maybe maybenot

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just use your PvP tools? If you see a toxic player in the OOC, the entire server should address it by creating a manhunt and killing his character until he is forced off the server. After a while, you'll see players behave. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vallon used to be like this. LnS was played enforced, you didn't attack naked people or train, people that shit talked ended up blackballed from any decent guild.

This server isn't as toxic as you'd think. If you watch ooc it's a lot of the same people and their alts. I mean everything says something stupid sometime, but the main offenders are the same people looking for attention and approval.

[Gustoo]

Yes, the current global OOC gives a false impression of the toxicity of the server.

And unfortunately the majority of guys here try to think of themselves as "elite PK awesome guys" which they never were on live. People with this mind set would have been the extreme minority of any live PVP server but it is not the case here. These type of players are not the ones that will community police anything.

[Celedor]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This server isn't as toxic as you'd think. If you watch ooc it's a lot of the same people and their alts. I mean everything says something stupid sometime, but the main offenders are the same people looking for attention and approval.

When I first created a char on red I was dismayed by the insults and trash talk in /ooc, and I almost left. I don't mind PvP of course, but the talk in /ooc made the server seem like it was full of jerks. But I try to ignore it (although I find it useful for /auction), and the players who I've actually interacted with have been great.

[Servant]

Global /ooc is to support the LnS system, as lackluster as that may be. Get rid of LnS and you can get rid of gobal /ooc, not that I care personally. I look at it when I want to, and ignore it otherwise.

[gkmarino]

Certain players should lose their /ooc privileges.

Can someone who has been on red for a good amount of time PM me a list of players that I should /ignore before I even hear a word out of their mouth? Thanks!

[Malevz]

That's a tough question cause it really depends on who you ask. You'll start to notice pretty quick though. It's a lot worse on the boards because you end up ignoring over half of the people.

Once you've ignored the desperate for attention/approval people in ooc and on message boards, it's a whole different less annoying game though.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by surron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

global ooc is needed for trading, ports and LFG. without it red would feel barren.

Global OOC is toxic and runs people off server, people on server complain that server is too barren without global OOC.

Red is one toxic circle.

[Fame]

You will never squash the american exceptionalism that has lead to the global ooc on a 16 year old elf sim

[Gustoo]

Seems like pretty much confirmed fact that global ooc is bad for server. A /lns tag could be flown like /lfg and enables servere wide lns yellowtext after death. Ezpz.