VA live reporter shooting

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I think you guys are too used to how it's portrayed in movies. In real life, adrenaline hits and you don't even know if you're hit right away. You can only think about getting away. Also, blood doesn't necessarily splatter all over the place.

She didn't make it far.

She didn't clutch where she got shot or anything, I've never been shot but people say it feels like being punched really hard. Not conspiracy theorizing yet but if I got shot in the chest/stomach area 4 times I'd expect some blood at least.

Link is dead on the vid, I dunno if there's any others left out there? Would like to see it again just to be sure.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

She didn't clutch where she got shot or anything, I've never been shot but people say it feels like being punched really hard. Not conspiracy theorizing yet but if I got shot in the chest/stomach area 4 times I'd expect some blood at least.

Link is dead on the vid, I dunno if there's any others left out there? Would like to see it again just to be sure.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=225_1440602498

Honestly, His first shot may have missed her, or hit her left arm.

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The camera is to the right of the gun at this angle, so compensate for that. Anyone who's shot a gun will know that it's still easy to miss even at that range.

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I think you guys are too used to how it's portrayed in movies. In real life, adrenaline hits and you don't even know if you're hit right away. You can only think about getting away. Also, blood doesn't necessarily splatter all over the place.

She didn't make it far.

nah its not movies for me at all. just questioning. It is a glock though...knowing that im surprised they died. suppose i'm just more used to seeing 5.56 and larger rounds being shot
And my blood comment was directed towards more to droplets than anything. Im really interested in the autopsys and what actually caused the deaths whether it be a vital or blood loss etc

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Ranndom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nah its not movies for me at all. just questioning. It is a glock though...knowing that im surprised they died. suppose i'm just more used to seeing 5.56 and larger rounds being shot
And my blood comment was directed towards more to droplets than anything. Im really interested in the autopsys and what actually caused the deaths whether it be a vital or blood loss etc

There's a lot of different caliber glocks, ranging from 380 to 45. My guess it was a Glock 19, 9mm. Being shot with that caliber can have the exact effect I was talking about.. being in shock right away and not noticing, but within a few seconds, you will feel it and go down.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there's no way you take 4 bullets at short range and continue to run away, is there?

You've never hunted have you? (Really trying not to be sarcastic) An animals body is an amazing thing. Humans are just the same.

I've heard of stories where someone has been shot in the heart and their body kept running and more for over 30 seconds.

I've heard of stories where someone is shot in the upper part of the head (brain) and stayed awake until the doctor at the hospital put them to sleep for surgery.

Serotonin (natural) allows us, humans, to do things that baffles even the most skilled scientist/doctors. It's absolutely tragic that this occurred and hearing the screeming in the video proves the lady being shot is not only still conscious, but aware of the horrible situation laid out before her.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This is terrible.

[Snapple]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not if you're in a big city (London, Manchester, Birmingham)

"Recorded gun and knife enabled offences in London account for about 2% of total recorded crime"

U SRS?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Snapple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Recorded gun and knife enabled offences in London account for about 2% of total recorded crime"

U SRS?

Link for that?

You can dwarf any crime stat if you're including theft, rape, fraud, etc etc. The police love to cover their issues with statistics.

There's a big demand for things like converted replica weapons in the cities.

[Snapple]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Link for that?

You can dwarf any crime stat if you're including theft, rape, fraud, etc etc. The police love to cover their issues with statistics.

There's a big demand for things like converted replica weapons in the cities.

"Gun enabled crime figures are displayed on the Metropolitan Police website at borough level expressed as financial year to date comparisons"

http://www.met.police.uk/crimefigures/

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Snapple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Gun enabled crime figures are displayed on the Metropolitan Police website at borough level expressed as financial year to date comparisons"

http://www.met.police.uk/crimefigures/

Rolling 12 month figures:-

1705 gun crimes ... making the average 142 per month in London (and up 10% versus the same period the year previously)

Doesn't sound a lot, but in a country without guns, that's 4-5 a day on average - and I think that's bad. If you want to play Police Commissioner and tell me "that's nothing", it isn't.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Snapple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Recorded gun and knife enabled offences in London account for about 2% of total recorded crime"

U SRS?

While the gun-related murder rate is higher in America than Europe, if you break it down by race, you find that white America is actually in line with most of Europe, which is pretty remarkable considering how many guns we have. We don't really have a gun a problem, we have a black problem.