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Old 08-13-2015, 01:55 PM
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The April 4, 2001 SPDAT file

has Flowing Thought III listed as increase mana by 3 (L1)
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:57 PM
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Okay that's what I thought... That would've been a huge mess up to have one of the FTs not actually do anything and just trick you into thinking it does
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Old 08-13-2015, 02:33 PM
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So at the very least it seems she shouldnt be dropping much of anything until we hit 3 months before 'Luclin' release on our time line

Those items she drops were most likely tuned for the Luclin expansion ( FT much more important as fights last even longer ) so I dunno her loot table doesnt really seem to fit our classic server as none of those items really ever existed on any classic timeline nor were they ever farmed like they probably will be here

something to consider- im sure im of the minority opinion on this
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Old 08-13-2015, 03:05 PM
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If they dropped 3 months before Luclin, they should drop here regardless.

Only reason she wasn't killed on Live for months between July and October is because she was buggy as hell.

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See Treats post - only highest FT item applies.
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Old 08-13-2015, 03:43 PM
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If they dropped 3 months before Luclin, they should drop here regardless.

Only reason she wasn't killed on Live for months between July and October is because she was buggy as hell.



See Treats post - only highest FT item applies.

That shows no proof and it also says FT3 doesn't work which isn't true.
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Old 08-13-2015, 04:52 PM
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That shows no proof and it also says FT3 doesn't work which isn't true.
It didn't work at launch of Velious, because there were no items higher than FT2.

FT not stacking is hardcoded into the Velious client, there really isn't any debate here. Eventually they made it so FT1+FT2+FT3 could stack (so total of 6 mana regen) and then even later they made it so all FT could stack with each other up to 15.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:08 PM
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Flowing Thought isn't listed at all in the 2/28/2001 spdat
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:03 PM
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If they dropped 3 months before Luclin, they should drop here regardless.
Sure - when we are closer to Luclin on our timeline but there is clear evidence she had no loot / PoG BPs as her loot for a long ass time

No one can definitively prove when her loot table got items that were actually really good - only 'Elvidence' shows sometime around those patches in Oct Ele points out around the time when the guild that killed Tunare was QQing about her loot
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Sure - when we are closer to Luclin on our timeline but there is clear evidence she had no loot / PoG BPs as her loot for a long ass time

No one can definitively prove when her loot table got items that were actually really good - only 'Elvidence' shows sometime around those patches in Oct Ele points out around the time when the guild that killed Tunare was QQing about her loot
Sure, there is no evidence, but only because no one could kill her because she either fell through world or was disabled for months at a time while they tried to fix her.

Doesn't mean she didn't have some of those items on her drop table at start of Velious. There's no evidence of that either - 1 kill isn't enough data either way.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:27 PM
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Sure, there is no evidence, but only because no one could kill her because she either fell through world or was disabled for months at a time while they tried to fix her.

Doesn't mean she didn't have some of those items on her drop table at start of Velious. There's no evidence of that either - 1 kill isn't enough data either way.
Yes - she was killed early in Velious and only dropped nothing/PoG BPs..

its in Ele's evidence - and no thats not just 'unlucky' to not see any of those ubar items when she died lol was a dif loot table added later
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