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Old 07-19-2015, 03:16 PM
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I always thought Jenner was going to be a train wreck for trans people.
NM that was someone else with alot less facial surgery. I mean.. trans people DO tend to be over sensitive and if you call one "sir", like the little kid in the suit did, it's about the meanest thing you can say to their face and I'm not surprised at the reaction. Probably the worst reaction possible short of actually sending him to hospital, but it's understandable.
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Old 07-19-2015, 03:52 PM
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NM that was someone else with alot less facial surgery. I mean.. trans people DO tend to be over sensitive and if you call one "sir", like the little kid in the suit did, it's about the meanest thing you can say to their face and I'm not surprised at the reaction. Probably the worst reaction possible short of actually sending him to hospital, but it's understandable.
'sir' is the most accurate way to address him no matter which way you swing it. Fuck his feelings. Shapiro has numbers and science behind him.

I can't think of any other situation where someone is applauded for using their mental illness as a shield to keep themselves from getting treatment from that very mental illness
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Old 07-19-2015, 04:15 PM
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And you're obviously on his side of the argument. I'm actually not going to get into that with you. "Fuck his feelings" though. Can a literal asperger like yourself even empathize with people at all? I don't know about the empathy, but I'm sure you're able to relate with feeling like you don't belong. Alienation. Depression. Unlike your condition, trans people actually have medical options to deal with theirs. Shapiro also happens to be wrong, suicide rates in post sexual reassignment transsexuals drops to the national average. It saves lives. So fuck your feelings too.
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Old 07-19-2015, 04:31 PM
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Quick Google search proves you very very wrong. The only 'study' I could find that backs up your claim is from Sweden... which should speak for itself.
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Old 07-19-2015, 04:39 PM
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So the general population's suicide rate in the US is 1.6 %. Post-op transsexual suicide rate is about 4.1%. Hundreds of times higher than general population so sex changes aren't the solution, obviously. Besides, you know, the 41% suicide rate of pre-op transgender people. 1000x reduction in the risk of suicide for the treatment of what the APA now considers a birth defect, not a mental illness.

But whatever. I'm arguing with a guy who has a quote about hentai and tentacles in his sig. Look I have nothing to gain by convincing you of anything.
I'm almost positively going to join that 41% so it's an issue that I feel is kinda a big deal and a little more real than you give it credit for. Try to be less of a dick. Later.
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Old 07-19-2015, 04:52 PM
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<3 u Ceci. Hope you're doing well. Don't listen to nerds that have zero clue how we feel and what we deal with.
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Old 07-19-2015, 04:58 PM
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So the general population's suicide rate in the US is 1.6 %. Post-op transsexual suicide rate is about 4.1%. Hundreds of times higher than general population so sex changes aren't the solution, obviously. Besides, you know, the 41% suicide rate of pre-op transgender people. 1000x reduction in the risk of suicide for the treatment of what the APA now considers a birth defect, not a mental illness.

But whatever. I'm arguing with a guy who has a quote about hentai and tentacles in his sig. Look I have nothing to gain by convincing you of anything.
I'm almost positively going to join that 41% so it's an issue that I feel is kinda a big deal and a little more real than you give it credit for. Try to be less of a dick. Later.
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<3 u Ceci. Hope you're doing well. Don't listen to nerds that have zero clue how we feel and what we deal with.
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I can't think of any other situation where someone is applauded for using their mental illness as a shield to keep themselves from getting treatment from that very mental illness
Point proven.

All this rage over a fucking pronoun.
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Old 07-19-2015, 05:23 PM
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I don't know yall, I questioned my own gender identity from age 4 and felt alienated and depressed and like everything would be fine if I could just join the more privileged sex plenty in my day. But realizing that gender is an arbitrary construct just like like our bifurcated assigned sexualities was the way forward for me.

Rising above it, not using mad science to poison my brain and turn me into a twisted sex freak, has kept a lot more options open to me and instead of my depression sending me on a permanent downward spiral of false identity, I can stand tall as man. Not a gay man or a trans woman or a straight cuckold like most of the plebs I meet, but a man and minor God in the Roman sense who bends himself only to nature instead of a twisted and disgusting set of temporary societal norms.

I can't help but pity those who lacked the strength or support to find happiness as their true selves and stand before God as humans, not science projects. To take hormones whose correlation to suicide strongly implies they cause serious insult to the human psyche simply to look different is an absolutely horrifying conclusion to try and justify. Your appearance is meaningless, and your intelligence is the only thing of importance. Poisoning the health of one to change the other is sad, very sad. But it's pretty hot you committed to lifelong torture and servile plebitude just to please my dick - wanna fuck?
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Old 07-19-2015, 05:33 PM
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Old 07-19-2015, 06:00 PM
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what you do with your biologically predestined dick shonuff is a social construct. Sorry if I was ambiguous enough to be confused with a relativist, but don't you start strawmanning me little man.
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