Should KC be an FFA Zone?

[El Camacho]

Making Karnors free for all might reduce grief for 2 hours once a week for 2 guilds, but that grief would most likely just be transferred to everyone else on the server trying to use the zone the other 166 hours during the week.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by El Camacho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Making Karnors free for all might reduce grief for 2 hours once a week for 2 guilds, but that grief would most likely just be transferred to everyone else on the server trying to use the zone the other 166 hours during the week.

Agreed.

The staff has to stop pandering to the 50 or so bored lifers who just live to kill each other and spew autism.

If they actually want this server to be a viable alternative to blue and not just some forgotten side project they will have to make it more tolerable.

We need a revised PNP that outlines the rules of this server more clearly (LNS and force LNS are so open and full of loop holes that new players don't know how to use them)

We need to REMOVE YELLOW TEXT all this does is encourage the SK/Rogue Twink brigade and the COM Levi wizards to constantly harass leveling groups. Server population is growing and we don't need new players being embarrassed with a server wide emote by some lvl 20 epiced rogue when they are in rags trying to kill orcs in crushbone.

It even effects people at level 60. How many people plug at the first sign of trouble to avoid being "YT'd" that might actually put up a fight if it was just actual classic PVP. I see people fucking deguild before dying to avoid shaming their guild server wide.

instead of talking to the Lites and the Gongshows, people with 10+ bis characters the staff should be talking to the people in TMO and Thunderdome and any other leveling guilds out there. The people who actually use LNS and actually want to level in KC. Removing the PNP and removing level limits on PVP will just continue to drive players off the server because they will be the first people murdered by Tstaff level 60s that at the same time complain about the lack of PVP.

[Mr Popo]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need to REMOVE YELLOW TEXT all this does is encourage the SK/Rogue Twink brigade and the COM Levi wizards to constantly harass leveling groups. Server population is growing and we don't need new players being embarrassed with a server wide emote by some lvl 20 epiced rogue when they are in rags trying to kill orcs in crushbone.

IDK and IDC about FFA in KC gawd this man speaks the truth. Honestly the 4 lvl limit pvp sucks too because lowbies best way to counteract gankers is to run together, and it is dumb as shit when the epic no lifer can't be attacked by the rest of the group because they are out of level range. Watched a couple of mates die this weekend when we could have easily zerged them with 2 or 3 (mostly cause the pker was terrible as shit at this game).

Equally preposterous that they are talking above reducing the LNS violation ban to 7 days when only the account is banned and NOT THE PLAYER. I'd be my left nut that >75% of the epic delevels are 1 character account shares too. WTF just make the whole fucking server ffa with no rules and be done with it.

But then again I could have easily solved this problem by grouping with people in a zone WHERE THERE ARE NO FUCKING PEOPLE WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKK.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed.

The staff has to stop pandering to the 50 or so bored lifers who just live to kill each other and spew autism.

If they actually want this server to be a viable alternative to blue and not just some forgotten side project they will have to make it more tolerable.

We need a revised PNP that outlines the rules of this server more clearly (LNS and force LNS are so open and full of loop holes that new players don't know how to use them)

We need to REMOVE YELLOW TEXT all this does is encourage the SK/Rogue Twink brigade and the COM Levi wizards to constantly harass leveling groups. Server population is growing and we don't need new players being embarrassed with a server wide emote by some lvl 20 epiced rogue when they are in rags trying to kill orcs in crushbone.

It even effects people at level 60. How many people plug at the first sign of trouble to avoid being "YT'd" that might actually put up a fight if it was just actual classic PVP. I see people fucking deguild before dying to avoid shaming their guild server wide.

instead of talking to the Lites and the Gongshows, people with 10+ bis characters the staff should be talking to the people in TMO and Thunderdome and any other leveling guilds out there. The people who actually use LNS and actually want to level in KC. Removing the PNP and removing level limits on PVP will just continue to drive players off the server because they will be the first people murdered by Tstaff level 60s that at the same time complain about the lack of PVP.

Good post

Ive been saying for a long time that PnP is unintuitive. Worse, the subtleties and jurisprudence are lost in various dead threads, not even pinned to the main thread.

Yellow text should go, yeah. I was indifferent for it when the debate was going on on forums if it was a good thing or not, besides that i did not want location to be disclosed in the YT if it ever was implemented.

You articulate well why its a problem beyond disclosing the location of the kill.

[Recycled Children]

Originally Posted by Chloroform [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you bring up a lot of good points, but i feel that you are mistaken, not realizing that...Changing policy, or rules on an established server to cater to a skewed % of players, is counter productive. a high percentage of this poll leans toward FFA, but that is not a legitimate consensus of the entire server it is skewed and probably way off..

Stop trying to BDA your own server.. pretty soon you'll be looking for some unclassic rotation or some catered to casual scum policy... I left blue to avoid this, and it seems this community is not to far off..

We want a "classic environment" stop trying to make it further from that

Making another zone FFA isn't adding a new rule, there are already FFA zones. One more FFA zone is not game breaking it puts a stop to shit PvP tactics in a zone with high PvP concentration.

What the fuck is BDA? I'm not sure what that means nor where you're going with this slippery slope argument.

[minakto]

Not classic. Move to resolved. Thanks.

[Samoht]

Evacs won't be an issue in Velious, anyway.

[SamwiseRed]

danak farming t staffs 23/7 wiill not be happy about this change.

[Eslade]

Yes

[SamwiseRed]

I've only been back a month but I've never seen some randoms stroll into KC to get xp besides un-tagged alts.