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Old 06-26-2015, 05:34 AM
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Not sure what's more of a challenge.

Doing 1-2mobs at a time in a group of 6 in KC or Seb...

Or getting a puller to correctly setup a pull, a cleric to correctly heal and DA on time, Enchanter's to hold and cycle their stuns for 3-4minutes and DPS to kill it before going OOM

Getting 1 pull to function correctly requires everyone participating to do their role correctly and any failures like a sitting enchanter or an interrupted stun could wipe your group...

OR

Keep single pulling mobs in KC to your group of 6 level 50s...

Perhaps you are referring to the challenge of not getting bored/losing interest from how slow those groups get exp though?
min/maxers gonna min/max.
chardok AE makes me foam at the ass and is for people that hate playing everquest.
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:57 AM
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min/maxers gonna min/max.
chardok AE makes me foam at the ass and is for people that hate playing everquest.
To each their own.

I personally think it's cool when a group can use a variety of different abilities, together in conjunction that allow you to do things the devs didn't intend on.

Otherwise, PBAE Nuke spells are absolutely useless. And no, farming level 20 greens shouldn't be your claim for their use. No one even mass farmed greens until Luclin, when trade skills were useful.

Also the way the pull is done is equally awesome. Utilizing how faction works and the ability to park a pet and use a linear zone to create trains in your favor, again awesome.

Using DA to stack up mobs on yourself so you aren't dealing with streams of mobs and the ability to do this because of how aggro transfer works, again awesome.

I dunno - It's just that Mechanics behind why Chardok is allowed to work require an understanding of the game and people doing their role in a group properly for a few minutes. It's no exploit where it has 0 risk or takes 0 effort. It requires a group of 4-5 level 60s and 2-3 level 50-60s to work. It required some knowledge and testing for people to make it work in classic. Here people expanded on that and utilized faction friendly pet classes and monks to do larger pulls that modern internet connections now allow.

I've done dungeon leveling and solo leveling of all varieties. I Re-lived my classic experience on my Druid. All future alts were created purely for raid purposes, so the road to 60 is irrelevant to me on them. <3 having a 60 cleric and wizard for raids. Both of whom have never grouped in KC, Seb, or HS. I can't imagine anything more boring than grouping on these one sided classes. But, they are extremely useful raid characters, so I <3 them.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:12 AM
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Not sure what's more of a challenge.

Doing 1-2mobs at a time in a group of 6 in KC or Seb...

Or getting a puller to correctly setup a pull, a cleric to correctly heal and DA on time, Enchanter's to hold and cycle their stuns for 3-4minutes and DPS to kill it before going OOM

Getting 1 pull to function correctly requires everyone participating to do their role correctly and any failures like a sitting enchanter or an interrupted stun could wipe your group...

OR

Keep single pulling mobs in KC to your group of 6 level 50s...

Perhaps you are referring to the challenge of not getting bored/losing interest from how slow those groups get exp though?

As someone who was the enchanter (the only "difficult" role in an AE group), actually grouping content is much harder than AE grouping. Trains, accidents, etc all complicate issues that simply don't exist in AE groups with easy recovery and a 96% rez waiting bound feet away.

If you handle content that is relevant and at-level (ie doing harder seb camps as intended or crawling Charasis), there is no contest whatsoever.
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:04 PM
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Hey its either complete afk in Chardok or borderline afk in seb, take your pick.
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:06 PM
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Hey its either complete afk in Chardok or borderline afk in seb, take your pick.
Why play at all?
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:28 PM
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Why play at all?
Because Soloing/Duoing is where it's at.
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:03 PM
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Because Soloing/Duoing is where it's at.
You solo chardok AOE?
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:12 PM
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You solo chardok AOE?
If you wanna get banned, sure.
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:11 PM
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The following is meant for humor. I was going to post it alone but I don't think a lot of people on the forums will understand what it is and will end up taking me seriously.


 
What the fuck did you just fucking say about Chardok AOE groups, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Chardok Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous chardok AOE groups, and I have over 300k confirmed kills. I am trained in AoE warfare and I’m the top wizard in the entire p99 server. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe your group the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Norrath, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me and mine over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the p99 forums and your account is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm of packets, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your computer. You’re fucking slain, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my staff. Not only am I extensively trained in wizard combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the entire guild of Wizards and I will use it to its fullest extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking slain, kiddo.
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:39 PM
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The following is meant for humor. I was going to post it alone but I don't think a lot of people on the forums will understand what it is and will end up taking me seriously.[/spoiler]
This thread reminded me about how Ten still isn't 60 and you should get in and proxy me the rest of the way.
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