Rules Decent Players should abide by...

[Danth]

NBG loot gets old after the first dozen or so times you see that guy who "needed" something auctioning it off in East Commons a couple hours later. Roll-on-everything might not be ideally preferable, but it's hard to deny that it's less subject to lies and deceit.

A single person wrecking a zone due to power-level would fall under "zone disruption" in the rules. Petition it. Such behavior is pretty universally frowned upon by the community at large as poor etiquette. The folks who do this in populated zones are a small minority.

Some groups discriminate with respect to whom they invite; others don't. P1999 isn't the same as historic Everquest was in this respect, but neither are conditions here the same. We have a community full of players who've spent the past 10 years being conditioned by many online games to treat other players as little more than AI bots. Right or wrong, the general gaming community isn't the same as it was fifteen years ago.

In short, all problems have their causes.

Danth

[Deckk]

I really can't believe other servers weren't NBG loot. Mind = blown.

[theaetatus]

Originally Posted by Pipip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few days ago, a level 60 rogue was looking for Yendar Starpyre for his epic. I saw a level 60 mage engage the npc, and then demand 3000 plat to reset the mob, or else he was going to kill him and the guy would have to wait 8 hours for a repop.

I wish more people would live by these decency rules, but I doubt it

I find it highly unlikely that a rogue made it to 60 on p99 with no epic.

[ko37qtl]

Outside of friends or guild, I think NBG is unfair at best. All strove for an accomplishment, all should have an equal chance at a payoff. The law of averages will service in the end, with money for the item that wasn't won randomly. You want an item, form your group for that and see if people will join to get it for you. Better yet, call some friends. Otherwise, take your chances.

Although I tend to be pretty open about accepting folks into groups (assuming level appropriate), I don't think there's anything that compels us to invite or anyone to invite me. This isn't the first time I've seen someone try to compel what they thought was ethical behavior beyond the rules. I'd generally benefit by the strict interpretation of your rules. I have a ton of alts for NBG, they're mostly still low level, and I don't have anyone at level cap. Still, a classic phrase springs to mind, although it is weakened with a free to play game: you can tell me how to play when you pay my monthly fee.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Deckk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really can't believe other servers weren't NBG loot. Mind = blown.

the live server comparison isn't really valid. p99 isn't a live server. if live servers had been locked at kunark for 5 years then they would have become p99 eventually too.

P99 stopped being a real emu server a long time ago...its now an mmo social experiment of what would have happened to classic eq if it never ended. which is still fun!

[Chrig]

Originally Posted by Zenren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going by social norms. If you're greed comes before someone else's need, then let me be the first to say, you are probably not as nice as you think you are.

In that case, everybody on this planet should be driving the cheapest cars so we can give to those more readily that need it.

Shit logic will be shit. Free roll on anything that's not no drop.

[Zenren]

Madbad- Dude we get it, you want to troll the post. Cool for you, but please stop disrupting the thread if you don't have anything constructive to add. It's not funny, it's just a bit juvenile and really annoying.

[Madbad]

I think I'm funny.

[Zenren]

I'm willing to concede on the need before greed rolling, just because you're right about people tending to sell items they've "needed" on.

This post was about how things worked and what would ideally be nice to see happen in the game. My main issues these days are with Power Levelers taking camps for a single person, MQers camping items they have no need for, when someone that does need it comes along, especially no drops. I had a guy in Upper Guk refuse to let me loot a no drop for a quest, because it would be "too much of a hassle".

I'm just proposing people acting like decent people and I honestly don't think I'm asking too much. If we can't act like decent people to actual human beings, not AI's or Bots, then what does that say about us as people and a community?

[Madbad]

Originally Posted by Zenren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm willing to concede on the need before greed rolling, just because you're right about people tending to sell items they've "needed" on.

This post was about how things worked and what would ideally be nice to see happen in the game. My main issues these days are with Power Levelers taking camps for a single person, MQers camping items they have no need for, when someone that does need it comes along, especially no drops. I had a guy in Upper Guk refuse to let me loot a no drop for a quest, because it would be "too much of a hassle".

I'm just proposing people acting like decent people and I honestly don't think I'm asking too much. If we can't act like decent people to actual human beings, not AI's or Bots, then what does that say about us as people and a community?

You are never going to find the community you are looking for on blue. The place is done. Most folks you are leveling with are on their 5th or 6th alt (even if they say they are new) and can't conceive of anyone having anything less.

If you can handle us scumlords and are decent at making friends, there is still a very open, fresh feel on red. NBG is a thing that actually happens on Red as folks want the people watching their back to be at least as well geared as themselves. Most guilds and groups tend to be much more social and tighter knit.

Also, then we can kill you.