An open letter from <Forsaken>

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just curious how a newly formed guild is considered Class-C when the guild they broke from still has it's existing guild leader, several of the officers and over 100 members.

Is it more offensive for Forsaken to compete in Class-R with obvious intentions to quickly progress to Class-C than two obvious Class-C capable guilds that remain in Class-R and cycle lockout timers between themselves?

Chest, when <Foreceful Entry> formed, Shinko was the guild leader and a former officer of BDA. The membership was also 90%+ BDA members. Did you consider FE as BDA with a different name?

1) there wasn't a class system at the time when FE broke off

2) FE formed to be completely different from BDA, they wanted to go fight dirty against TMO. Forsaken formed to continue the legacy of TMO minus whatever stigma was attached to the name

3) as noted, Omni splintering off and working within the rotation structure is a good example of how to lead a guild without going full retard

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) there wasn't a class system at the time when FE broke off

I was speaking in general terms, as a yes or no, regardless of classes that are now in place.

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) FE formed to be completely different from BDA, they wanted to go fight dirty against TMO. Forsaken formed to continue the legacy of TMO minus whatever stigma was attached to the name

Forsaken formed to completely discontinue the legacy of TMO. It wants absolutely nothing to do with that name, we just want the members that felt the same way. The people that didn't feel the same and actively seek to continue the legacy are still in <The Mystical Order> or on red <TMO>(and also consider there are well over 100 of them)

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) as noted, Omni splintering off and working within the rotation structure is a good example of how to lead a guild without going full retard

What happened to that rotation again?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What happened to that rotation again?

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At that time, there was still a rotation. There currently isn't one in R anymore.

Staff-enforced rotation of class R is still very much in place. More information can be found here.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forsaken formed to completely discontinue the legacy of TMO. It wants absolutely nothing to do with that name, we just want the members that felt the same way.

Somebody post the freaking screen shot of their forums where they're discussing perpetuating the douchebaggery...

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Somebody post the freaking screen shot of their forums where they're discussing perpetuating the douchebaggery...

Edit: hmmm link is broken now

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Somebody post the freaking screen shot of their forums where they're discussing perpetuating the douchebaggery...

Nothing of the sort ever happened on our forum.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Somebody post the freaking screen shot of their forums where they're discussing perpetuating the douchebaggery...

That screenshot is one of the least malicious things I've ever read on RNF. It absolutely does not live up to your hype.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) as noted, Omni splintering off and working within the rotation structure is a good example of how to lead a guild without going full retard

At that time, there was still a rotation. There currently isn't one in R anymore. Had there of been, this would have been an entirely different situation.

This is just for clarification. Twist it however you like, but the simple fact remains that we were under the impression that all new guilds would be considered R, and that we were an entirely new guild considering our former guild is still in tact with leadership, officers and are currently restructuring to continue raiding.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) as noted, Omni splintering off and working within the rotation structure is a good example of how to lead a guild without going full retard

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[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Yes, I get angry and say hateful shit. Have you never met me or something?