Stolen Item

[BlkCamel]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Incorrect. There was a ruling on this not long ago that if you killed something and logged (i.e. Log to another char so you can loot said item) you forfeit loot rights.

This keeps someone from perma camping an item such as VP key parts and Ancient Cyclops rings etc. because you also can't corpse items using the same strategy.

If you are doing a camp like this for an item for another char you run the risk of someone else looting it unfortunately.

I would double check this with a GM, because it has never been this way, even after the PNP rules update. You can log off and log on another char and loot the item, you do not lose loot rights because you log off. You can however lose camp rights if you log out or zone out, and I think you may be conflating these 2 policies.

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[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Incorrect. There was a ruling on this not long ago that if you killed something and logged (i.e. Log to another char so you can loot said item) you forfeit loot rights.

This keeps someone from perma camping an item such as VP key parts and Ancient Cyclops rings etc. because you also can't corpse items using the same strategy.

If you are doing a camp like this for an item for another char you run the risk of someone else looting it unfortunately.

Please link the ruling.

It is a deeply established precedent here that killing a mob entitles a player to the loot rights of that mob.

[Halius]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Incorrect. There was a ruling on this not long ago that if you killed something and logged (i.e. Log to another char so you can loot said item) you forfeit loot rights.

This keeps someone from perma camping an item such as VP key parts and Ancient Cyclops rings etc. because you also can't corpse items using the same strategy.

If you are doing a camp like this for an item for another char you run the risk of someone else looting it unfortunately.

I'm pretty sure this in not correct. From what I read out of the ruling (what I recall at least) it was during an Ancient Cyclops dispute, they said the loot rights go to the player, meaning you CAN camp the mob and then log onto another toon to loot the item. However, you must then give up the camp, regardless of what character of yours looted it, you are only allowed to get 1 of that item if others are waiting in line. I'm not sure how this applies to the ass/sup camp, I just know that's what I saw for the AC camp.

[Widan]

Originally Posted by Juryiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is against the rules to loot anything that you didn't kill without permission. Even if the person logs out or lets it rot, you still can't loot it. Of course if the person doesn't care it's fine but if he does like in this case, if there is evidence GMs will probably rule against him.

There is a petition forum to post this OP, not the general chat.

By this logic you shouldn't be able to loot it on your alt either since he took no part in the kill. (Hint: this logic is wrong)

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Widan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By this logic you shouldn't be able to loot it on your alt either since he took no part in the kill. (Hint: this logic is wrong)

Rights go to the player, not the character.

[Swish]

The lawyering is strong in this thread. Is it time?

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[Widan]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rights go to the player, not the character.

Impossible, as players have no way of knowing which person plays which characters so anyone could claim the loot that way.

[Lady Julae]

Originally Posted by Raszul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. . . I killed him and the other 2 spawns, logged to my Rogue, and saw the Assa Corpse decaying. downstairs I heared the Guy dying to some froglocks and then he went offline immidiatly. Ive made a petition, but someone in /ooc said to me I should make a post in the forum here as well. what can I do? . . .

Why would you report him? He did nothing wrong. When you /logout you give up the camp and any loot rights.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Lady Julae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you report him? He did nothing wrong. When you /logout you give up the camp and any loot rights.

Incorrect.

Please see this thread, specifically my post on page 19 & Eunomia's on page 18.

Originally Posted by Eunomia

The ownership of looting rights does not expire until the corpse expires.

Logging off to switch characters does not forfeit these rights.

Logging off while claiming a camp forfeits the camp claim if no other party member continues a presence at the camp during that "log off" absence. If the person logging off with no other party member present returns prior to another player claiming the camp, they may reclaim the camp.

You may not agree with the server's rules and policies, but we would appreciate it if you do not mislead other players while voicing your opposition.

Originally Posted by Eunomia

To reiterate because I typed it wrong and edited:

Logging off to switch characters does not forfeit these rights.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...&postcount=180

[Lady Julae]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Incorrect.

Please see this thread, specifically my post on page 19 & Eunomia's on page 18.




http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...&postcount=180

Those rules only apply to raid and group kills. You may want to read again.